Struggled with this one Nimrod. Bit of a quiz if you ask me!
We had to find four items which are members of an extensive list “each unique in the same way” (Huh?).
Then “The coincidentally very apt key event should be named under the grid to record the uniqueness of the discovery” (Huh? again)
In addition letters giving the event are ignored in six pieces of wordplay (I wasn’t sure on an initial reading whether this meant that they were extra letters or missing letters).
The clues to another group of four, related to the first four, lacked a common definition, and they had “unorthodox wordplay involving a substitution”.
Other clues were normal (but difficult!). All in all I found this a four (Ba thought a five!) on the Nimrod/Henderson scale.
To start with the six clues with the letter “ignored” in the wordplay – this turned out to mean that the letter was not included in the wordplay and appeared in the answer out of thin air.
Ignored letter clues giving the “event” | ||||
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Number | Clue | Answer | Definition: Wordplay | |
1 Down | The least number kicking about autumn leaves (7) | QUANTUM | Q | The least number: [AUTUMN]* (leaves? Couldn’t find any reason for this word.) |
7 Across | More than one backing Ed M & co (3) | PLU | U | More than one (PLU(ral): L(abour) P(arty) – Ed M(illiband) is leader of . . . – not my favourite clue!! |
8 Down | Liquid still sent for analysis (5) | UNSET | U | Liquid still: [SENT]* |
24 Down | During kinky stuff, only one performing lifted feet (7) | MOLOSSI | I | Feet (3 long syllables): SM round SOLO all reversed |
42 Across | A grand new line (3) | ZAG | Z | A new line: A +G(rand) |
29 Down | Stuck in cooler character following bishop in Brahms and Liszt (5) | FRANZ | Z | (Franz) Liszt: R is the character following B(ishop) in Brahms in FAN (cooler). Fiendish! |
So the event was a QUIZ. The letters Q, U, I and Z are in the four corners of the grid.
Having soved most of the normal clues and filled in most of the grid, the oddly clued set of four turned out to be countries (the common definition of the rubric): CROATIA, MONGOLIA, ECUADOR and PAKISTAN.
For the next bit I (Hi) am indebted to Ho who spotted that the capital cities of these four countries begin with the letters Q, U, I and Z. They are QUITO (Ecuador), ULAN BATOR (Mongolia), ISLAMABAD (Pakistan) and ZAGREB (Croatia). They can be found by starting at each corner, moving anti-clockwise one square and then moving diagonally. These are the four items to be highlighted in the grid (shown below).
The clues for the countries involve the “substitution” mentioned in the rubric and we have to substitute the name of the capital city for the capital letter of the country.
Country clues | |||||
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Number | Clue | Country | Capital | Substituted version | Explanation |
43 Across | Who should you try to catch? Ring copper in court having acquired gold (7) | ECUADOR | QUITO | QUITOCUADOR | IT (who should you try to catch in children’s game – though usually “it” was the catcher in my childhood) + O (ring) + CU (copper) in QUAD (court) + OR (gold) |
25 Across | Labouring a lot on a cast (8) | MONGOLIA | ULAN BATOR | ULANBATORONGOLIA | [LABOURING A LOT ON A]* |
7Down | One’s taking fast steps to grab a coffin with a name on it (8) | PAKISTAN | ISLAMABAD | ISLAMABADAKISTAN | I’S (one’s) + LAMBADA (fast steps) round A + KIST (coffin) + A N(ame) |
2 Across | Brother described by a big 7dn general getting about (7) | CROATIA | ZAGREB | ZAGREBROATIA | BRO(ther) in A GREAT (big) all in ZIA (Pakistani (7dn) general) |
The only unique feature I could discover was that these are the only capital cities with those four first (capital) letters. So I am still at a loss as to what to write under the grid. Is it as simple as QUIZ? Was there some momentous evening event that we missed? What was the discovery?
We aren’t sure, and look forward to your comments and to clarification from Nimrod.
Normal Clues | |||
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Across | |||
No. | Clue | Answer | Definition: Wordplay |
9 | Typed addresses covering a range (5) | URALS | Range: U(niversal) R(esource) L(ocator)S (web addresses) round A |
11 | Long period of time with Navy (5) | YEARN | Long: YEAR + N(avy) |
12 | Take in help for crime novelist (4) | AIRD | Crime novelist (Catherine Aird – pseudonym of Kinn Hamilton McIntosh): R(take) in AID |
13 | Top academic’s not following positive argument (3) | PRO | Positive argument: PROF minus F(ollowing) |
14 | Bad Aussie poet unusually excluded from outspoken raving (5) | ONKUS | Bad Aussie: [OU(t)S(po)K(e)N]* (outspoken minus poet) |
15 | Report from the county circuits (4) | NOTS | Logic circuits: sounds like Notts. |
16 | Reducer of noise from social (50 times) (5) | DOLBY | Noise reduction system: DO (social) + L (50) + BY (times) |
17 | Kill American formality (3) | ICE | Double meaning: formality and kill (American) |
18 | Homer’s accepted Queen of the Underworld (4) | CORA | Kore and hence Cora are names for the young Persephone who later married Hades and became Queen of the Underworld: COR (= Homer – 11 bushels) + A(ccepted) |
19 | Black garments Arab women wear down to Marseilles (4) | ABAS | Black garments Arab women wear: A BAS (down in French) |
21 | Only partially articulated computing array (3) | ULA | Computing array (Uncommitted Logic Array): in articULAted |
22 | A perverse feature of coat of arms written by baronet (8, 2 words) | AT BOTTOM | Basically: A + [MOTTO (feature of coat of arms) + B(arone)T] reversed |
28 | Accepted having too much back trouble (3) | ADO | Trouble: A(ccepted) + O(ver)D(ose) reversed |
30 | Beat builder silly after lie’s forced out (4) | DRUB | Beat: [BU(il)D(e)R]* (builder minus lie) |
32 | Great steeplechaser drops circuit and a former title (4) | NEMN | Former title (to name (obs)): oNE MaN was a great steeplechaser – remove O (circuit) and A |
33 | Spoke dirty to Bard (3) | RAY | Double meaning: spoke and Shakespearian for dirty |
34 | Crisply brief encounters embezzlement cases (5) | TERSE | Crisply brief: hidden in encounTERS Embezzlement |
35 | Breton Saint miles from Swedish city (4) | MALO | Breton Saint: MAL(m)O |
37 | A part of siege, no ordinary ex- Taoiseach (5) | AHERN | Ex-Taoiseach (Bertie Ahern): A + HERON minus O(rdinary). A siege is the collective noun for herons. |
38 | Throwing weight about, cut head of lager lout (3) | OIK | Lout: [KI(l)O]* |
39 | Rock bed, moving son to right medical history (4) | ILLS | Medical history: SILL with S moved to right |
40 | Spiced drink Georgia upset saturating back of tabloid (5) | NEGUS | Spiced drink: GE in SUN all reversed |
41 | Jumps strange visitor in timeless fun (5) | JETES | Jumps: ET (strange visitor) in JES(t) |
Down | |||
No. | Clue | Answer | Definition: Wordplay |
2 | I’ll fill register in on account of S Americans (8) | CRIOLLOS | S Americans: I in ROLL (register) all in ‘COS (because – on account of) |
3 | Medals won just after depressing Government a trifle (7, 2 words) | OLD SONG | A trifle: GOLDS (medals won) + ON (just after) with G(overnment) depressed |
4 | Exactly 60 mins to get in the groove (6) | THROAT | Groove: HR in TO A “T” (exactly) |
5 | Writer visits Hollywood, Beverly Hills etc for images (5) | IDOLA | Images: I (writer) DO (visits) LA |
6 | How close place is lost to refuse (4) | DENY | Refuse: DENSITY (how close – a poor definition!) minus SIT (place) |
10 | Pub employee doesn’t need binge trade (3) | ART | Trade: BARTENDER minus BENDER (binge) |
11 | Young lout sticking up old black chap (5) | YOBBO | Young lout: O(ld) B(lack) BOY (chap) reversed |
18 | Heart’s not in Dating Agency – sickly sweet (8, 2 words) | CANDY EGG | Sickly sweet: [D(atin)G AGENCY]* |
20 | Quarrelled ominously about wingers missing sitter (8) | MODELLER | Sitter: hidden reversed in quarRELLED OMinously |
23 | Bats are ignored by agitated immoderate oppressed workers (7) | TOMMIED | Oppressed (verb) workers: [IMMOD(era)TE]* |
26 | SA men angering US with one (5) | OUENS | SA men (plural of ou): [US ONE]* |
27 | Appropriately placed units mobilised south of India (6, 2 words) | IN SITU | Appropriately placed: I + [UNITS]* |
31 | Club bouncers use freely for turning out wild stallion? (5) | BRONC | Wild stallion? (not in Chambers or Collins, but in Merriam-Webster online): Club seems to be a word indicating anagram of BOUNCERS minus USE |
34 | Over powering of Resistance by Yank that bears fruit (4) | TRUG | That bears fruit (a basket): TUG (yank) round R(esitance) |
36 | Rest for Milton’s high voice (3) | ALT | Double meaning: high voice and rest for Milton. |
I thought this was one of the cleverest puzzles I’ve ever done.
I wrote CAPITAL QUIZ under the grid but I’m not sure that was right.
Nimrod sets quizzes. I presume on the evening in question he made the fascinating discovery that the only countries to have unique initial letters in their capital city’s names are Ecuador, Mongolia, Pakistan and Croatioa; Q, U, I and Z, respectively. I find this discovery amazing — as Nimrod did.
I spotted in the grid quite early on a few countries so tried to work out where some others could go. I then spotted the unclued letters Q, U, I and Z were in the corners of the grid. I made the connection with the capital cities and then I had a great penny-dropping moment when I realised he’d hidden all the capital cities diagionally in the grid.
I think it’s the work of a genius!
I too struggled with this one. I’m just glad that it wasn’t my week to blog. I had no idea how the wordplay in 2a worked, so thanks Hi(HoBa) for that. Like you I would have had no idea what to write under the grid, there seemed to be no indication in the preamble. It was a rather long preamble so maybe some wording had to be cut due to space constraints. I always find it disappointing if there’s ambiguity or lack of instructions for the end game 🙁
And I failed to make the “fascinating discovery” that they are the only word capitals that start with those letters. I’ll be amazing all my friends with my new-found knowledge! 😀
Yes – this one took a long time to finish. (I’d rate it 4 on the 1–5 scale.)
Not only are QUITO, ULAN BATOR, ISLAMABAD and ZAGREB the only capitals to start with Q, U, I & Z respectively, but, as Tramp indicates at Comment 1, no other letter of the alphabet leads to a unique capital city – so I just wrote QUIZ below the grid.
The wordplay for 32a NEMN (via ONE MAN – never heard of it) took an age; and I’m still not cpmpletely convinced by the wordplay for 6d DENY. (As for “leaves” in the clue for 1d, Hihoba’s comment “Couldn’t find any reason for this word.” seems apt.)
But a very impressive grid construction. Thanks, Nimrod.
Amazing indeed. Managed to fill the grid but completely missed the capital cities and even with Hihoba’s excellent explanations of the substitutions find it difficult toget my head around it. 🙂
I put QUIZ CORNER as it seemed to be apt, but I agree that a bit more guidance about what was required would not have gone amiss (number of words, or letters, say).
Thanks to Hihoba for an excellent blog which revealed all. I’m afraid this puzzle was too tough for me (as are most IQs lately!)but, when I see the solution, I can see what a superb construction it was. My thanks and admiration to Nimrod.
I think the original “Henderson Scale” was 1-3 (much too crude) and was unofficially adapted by bloggers to 1-5. I would definitely give this one a 5.
I also failed the wordplay test for the countries – luckily that didn’t stop me filling and highlighting the grid.
I feel the rubric was unambiguous: “…key event should be named under the grid… The event’s letters are ignored in wordplay…” So QUIZ should be written under the grid.
Thanks to Nimrod – very ingenious – and definitely to Hihoba for sorting everything out so clearly.
Many thanks Hi, Ho & Ba for a pretty thorough blog.
It was certainly a ‘moment’ to discover that there are four and only four capital letters that lend themselves to each single capital, and then to find out they could be arranged as QUIZ, one of which I was running at the time (somehow I wasn’t alert to it at the setting stage!). The gradual dawning on me is reflected in the saving of this puzzle until the date of IQ 1,2,3,4 arrived.
Individual clue comments/justifications:
1dn (Q)UANTUM: ‘leaves’ is verbal – if you kick about (the letters of) AUTUMN, you ‘leave’ a word meaning ‘the smallest amount’.
7ac PL(U): not much to work with here, but I hoped the clue abbreviations led to the abbreviation of Labour Party.
43ac: IT, usually the minority, whether s/he is doing the catching or the avoiding. Cornish upbringing!
6dn: density is how closely the molecules/atoms are packed in an entity – ‘how close’ seems fair to me.
Finally, as John L says at #7, I can see no ambiguity with QUIZ being the necessary entry below the grid.
Thanks for the great blog and kind comments (Tramp, you flatter me!) on this site and elsewhere, and also to Mark Goodliffe for performing many of the proof solving/editorial duties for this puzzle.
John H
Another Inquisitor tour de force. Thanks Nimrod.
It was only a sleepless night on Bert’s behalf that enabled us to solve the puzzle. Lying awake desperately trying to think of connections, the penny suddenly dropped. It was then frustrating not being able to write things down to confirm everything. Joyce was oblivious to all of this frantic brain activity and was somewhat shell- shocked when all was revealed (so to speak!) the next morning.
Why we have never sent our completed entries off is sometimes a mystery – the challenge we suppose is in the solution and this certainly was one if those that left us amazed.
Thanks again to Nimrod and Hihoba for the blog.
How about A – Z QUIZ to go under the puzzle?