Independent 8907 / Donk

It’s a Donk –  at long last!

Checking through our posts, it’s over a year since we had the pleasure of blogging a Donk. When we were away in February we missed Donk’s puzzle when Gaufrid kindly stood in for us.

There’s one clue today which we didn’t really like – 24ac/ 15d – perhaps there is more to it and we are missing the point. However, as always, there is much to enjoy and some inventive clueing as expected along the way. Please see the amended comments for this clue – it is now our favourite! Some of the surface readings raised a smile.

We looked around for a theme but couldn’t find one unless there’s something about Donk’s background that he wants to 9ac about involving 12, 11 wearing a 2d. Addendum – We had a conversation with Donk at the S&B in Cambridge about how setters start filling in a grid, which is where themes (hidden or otherwise) can play a part. We now see what Donk filled the grid with in this case. 

If there are any errors we may not be able to make any changes to the blog until later today as we are starting to walk half of the Coast to Coast with some friends. Early this morning we are setting out from St Bees on the first leg ….. no doubt in the rain!!

Across
6   Board employed by you, I jail
OUIJA Hidden or ’employed’ in yOU I JAil
7   Workers bound to open second deck
SHOP FLOOR HOP (bound) in or ‘opening’ S (second) + FLOOR (deck)
9   Pipe down tower’s pretty, twisted at the end
KEEP QUIET KEEP (tower) + QUITE (pretty) with last two letters swapped around or ‘twisted at the end’
10   Hairy swinger didn’t need phone
ORANG A play on the fact that if you didn’t need the phone it was because O (no-one) RANG
11   Miss hunting lesson I supply
LIONESS An anagram of LESSON I (anagrind is ‘supply’)
13   Before long, one picking up mesdemoiselles here?
EARLY ON EAR (one picking up) + LYON (French city where one may find Mesdemoiselles – along with mesdames, messieurs et autres personnes français)
14   State of missing jam
PRESS exPRESS (state) without or ‘missing’ ex (of). We were a bit unsure about this one for a while. We then realised that as ex-Bristolians, we are ‘of’ or ‘from’ Bristol so were happy in the end!
16   Flat pack
PAD Double definition
18   Old lady to invent round sandwiches (possibly spam)
EMAIL MA (old lady) inside or ‘sandwiched by’ LIE (invent) reversed or ‘round’
19   Old opposition, that of the French
ANTIQUE ANTI (opposition) + QUE (‘that’ in French)
21   Finds passes
COMES BY Double defintion
23   It’s often filled during church, for each in turn
CREPE PER (for each) reversed or ‘turned’ in or ‘during’ CE (church)
24/15   1 1 2 3 5 8 ……
FIBONACCI SEQUENCE It turned out that this was our least favourite clue. Joyce looked at the numbers and as a ‘former’ mathematician the FIBONACCI SEQUENCE leapt out and overall the clue didn’t seem to be that cryptic. If it relates to the clue numbers it would read, “Nice, nice basque of course originally outré” plus “early on comes by” if the sequence is continued! When Bert was checking the blog he suddenly realised that FIBONACCI SEQUENCE is an anagram of NICE (1d) NICE (1d)  BASQUE (2d) OF Course(3d) ‘originally’ (5d) i.e. the first letter. The anagrind is ‘outré’ (8d). The clue numbers represent the Fibonacci Sequence.  WOW! RESPECT…..
27   Act on oral suffering here?
ROOT CANAL An anagram of ACT ON ORAL (anagrind is ‘suffering’): The mere thought of a dentist working on this area in my mouth makes me feel quite ill.
28   Do One Direction pack it in?
SCRAM S (direction) + CRAM (pack it in). A good bit of misdirection here we thought but that may have been because we hadn’t come across the urban slang meaning of ‘do one’.
Down
1   Charming and reserved, taking nothing off
NICE oN ICE (reserved) ‘taking off’ O (nothing)
2   Wicked stocking Queen makes you wear in bedroom
BASQUE BASE (wicked) around or ‘stocking’ QU (Queen). Actually Chambers only mentions ‘under-bodice’ – perhaps Donk knows more about where this garment is worn than Chambers!
3   Definitely Ascot’s
OF COURSE A play on the fact that if something belongs to Ascot (notice the apostrophe) then it would be OF COURSE (Ascot being the racecourse)
4   Revolutionary periods as royal arses about
SOLAR YEARS An anagram of ROYAL ARSES (anagrind is ‘about’)
5   First one’s booze by champers outside
ORIGINALLY I (one) GIN (booze) with ORALLY (by mouth or ‘champers’) around the outside
6   Yob’s current fine for boxing
OIK OK (fine) around or ‘boxing’ I (current)
7   Provokes traditional fans to stand up – side’s first to go down
STIRS UP PURISTS (traditional fans) reversed or ‘standing up’ with S (first letter of side) moving down
8   Every other bonus Tories put aside is shocking
OUTRE Hidden in the clue with every other letter in bOnUs ToRiEs missed out or ‘put aside’
11   They may get tips to barely move
LAP DANCERS Cryptic definition – A play on the fact that LAP DANCERS are paid in tips and have little on in the way of clothing – so we are told!
12   Too much bottom’s covered briefly
OVER THE TOP OTT (OVER THE TOP) is hidden or ‘covered’ in bOTTom. ”Briefly’ refers to the fact that it is a shortened form.
15   See 24 across
17   Sound unit that might ring in winter after docking
DECIBEL DEC I BELl (may ring on 1st December, i.e in winter). The last L is deleted or ‘docked’.
20   Small, mischievous and self involved!
ELFIN Hidden or ‘involved’ in sELF INvolved
22   One believer is heading off the following day
MONIST IS + T (first letter or ‘heading’ of The) following MON (day)
25   Plug cashback (those banking options)
CORK C OR K the first and last letters or ‘banks’ of CashbacK
26   System sorts out Bond
ISM IS M (M refers to James Bond’s boss who may well try and ‘sort him out’!)

 

7 comments on “Independent 8907 / Donk”

  1. In the end, I couldn’t finish this. There were several short answers I just couldn’t see, including a knot in the bottom right corner.

    24/15 is certainly clever, but as someone else who immediately recognised the sequence, it didn’t occur to me to search further, especially as 1dn was another I couldn’t get. Thanks for the explanation. Too clever by half.

  2. I thought this was another enjoyable Donk challenge. I also struggled in the SE but finally cracked SCRAM, followed by CORK and ISM. I biffed FIBONACCI SEQUENCE but now I wish I had bothered to investigate it further because it is a cracker. I’d heard of “do one” but it took me a goodly while to recognise it as the definition for 28ac, and I never did parse ISM so thanks for that B&J.

  3. FIBONACCI SEQUENCE was brilliant. Like most others, no doubt, I wrote in the answer without investigating further. Should have realised there was something more to it.

  4. Not the hardest of Donks (even though I had trouble to complete the SE).
    Like others, I didn’t pay much attention to the, in the end, absolutely brilliant FIBONACCI SEQUENCE.
    Alas, when the solution is so clear from it’s ‘definition’ all these thoughts that Donk put into it are perhaps wasted.
    I mean, most solvers just tackle a crossword and either get the solution or not.
    Only geniuses or the ones that visit this site (a minority, I fear) will have jumped for joy, many of them only after seeing the explanation (like me, for example).
    But WOW, Dave, 24/15 is quite unbelievable – full marks to you!

    I found 20d (ELFIN) very intriguing.
    I’m not sure whether we need both ‘small’ and ‘mischievous’ for the definition.
    But it’s that ‘self-involved’ that made me think.
    There is no hidden indicator because the word we are looking for comes from ‘self-involved’ as it is, er, ‘self-involved’.
    Clever.

    Finally, my view on 14ac is different.
    I saw it as PROFESS (‘state’) minus OF.

    Many thanks B&J.

  5. I think you are correct about the parsing for 14ac Sil, it makes much better sense.

    Our thoughts were the same about 20d – presumably that’s why Donk included the exclamation mark!

  6. Eimi mentioned on Twitter that one of the clues here was among the very best he’d ever edited. Praise indeed. I guess that was the Fibonacci one, though I’d have to add myself to the list of people who didn’t even look at the wordplay.

    Thought the One Direction one rather nice, and perhaps serendipitously topical.

  7. Catching up (prizes can be ‘lost’ in a pile of paperwork). I’d marked the Leonardo da Pisa clue as “weak?”, the question mark meaning I’d intended to return to explore further – but didn’t. On reading your intro just now I took another look – so was able to get the PDM for myself. Absolutely delightful. And how nice that a puzzle can bring new joy nearly three week’s after its initial solve…!
    I, too, derived PRESS from ‘express’ – the other clue I marked, with a QM, at the time. Of course, ‘profess’ is the key – silly me.
    So it’s thanks to B & J and the same, with golden knobs on, to Donk (the sound I heard internally on seeing the true resplendence of 24/15).
    [Joyce – once a mathematician, always a mathematician….]

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