Everyman 3,614

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1. Thanks Everyman and flashling.

   I enjoyed this and had no real problems. Left off entering BUTTIES until I had all the crossers, seem to remember that when I was young (more than 50 years ago) they were just slices of bread and butter, but the COED gives the sandwich definition as well. I also had to check that ‘pr’ was the abbreviation for ‘pair’.

2. Thanks Everyman and flashling

   Cookie @ 1: I’m knocking on a bit too, and as soon as butties came up my mind [or what’s left of it] leapt to (a) chip butties and (b) jam butties*. Have you never sampled either?

   * which later became northwestern (at least) slang for the type of police car which was white with a red stripe down the middle of the side.

3. [Simon S @2, I spent my early years in NZ, and don’t remember eating chips at all, and never heard of a “fish and chip” shop. Perhaps there was no cooking oil, just butter at that time, the 1940s early 50s? The only jam I remember was home made marmalade at breakfast (my mother spent a lot of the time preparing food parcels for her family in England), but I can remember some red jam on butterfly cakes at birthday parties.]

4. Enjoyable and fairly straightforward. I did waste a bit of time looking for anagrams of “river tour is” before I thought of starting with an actual river.

   Thanks, Everyman and flashling.

   [Cookie & Simon S, I’m the same vintage as you, but brought up in London. I don’t remember hearing the term “butty” until being Northern (particularly Liverpudlian) became fashionable in the 60s.]

5. [Um … the same vintage as Cookie. I’m not sure of your vintage, Simon.]

6. jennyk @ 5

   Let’s just say early 60s – age, not year of birth 😉

   Born and raised in the NW, so the butty was an early concept.

7. JennyK @4: ditto on spending too much time trying to put “river” into the anagram.

   Butties was my last one in, since it is not a familiar word here in America.

   It seems that the (now not-so) new Everyman has been yo-yoing back and forth on the difficulty scale. Some weeks, nearly as hard as a Friday if not a Prize; some weeks more like this.

8. [Simon S @6
   Just a young ‘un, then (said from the vantage point of the mid-60s).]

9. [jennyk @8 and Simon S @6, since last Thursday I have been in my mid-70s, you two are mere babes.]

10. [Belated Happy Birthday, Cookie!]

11. Apart from Mr Collins, hands up who has heard of Apocrypha; that one was a real struggle-and juggle. Otherwise, not too bad although I do agree that the degree of difficulty does definitely vary from week to week.

    Guess I need to be grateful that I was brought up in NZ a wee while after Cookie@3; by then Fish and Chips were almost a staple diet on a Friday night.

12. After my rant last week this was not only easier but had some fun elements like 6 and 7 down where at least there was a hint of humour at an overt urn or Aga in. Agree with Mairangi Mark about Apocrypha although the elements meant it couldn’t be much else. My lack of any religious knowledge whatsoever meant I had to check Transepts as well.

    Flashing, while there remain crosswords I don’t think In will ever go out, although it is not as ‘on trend’ as it once was. Same for fish butties, sad to say, all the rage in some parts of New Zealand, indeed there’s an open air restaurant just outside Wellington that specialises in the blasted things.

13. And here’s me thinking my clever pills were finally working! I breezed through this today except I put in ordinary for 7d, which I still believe is a better answer! That threw me for net and patronage. Otherwise a satisfying solve albeit a wee bit easy? We are a hard bunch to please, Everyman, but please don’t stop trying, mate.Thanks to you and Flashling. Oh, Cookie, whereabouts in our wonderful country were you raised?

14. Well we got all that out without any electronic help – and no words in the answers that were new to us. One of us grew up in a house with an Aga stove. About the right hardness as far as we are concerned.

15. Cookie I grew up in NZ in the forties and we had fish and chips every Friday. I knew ‘butties’ because of TV programmes like Coronation St.
    This week’s crossword was certainly easier than last week’s. Got all except Apocypha, which I should have got as I have heard of it.

    Thanks Flashling and Everyman.

16. Audrey A et al, lucky you, I was introduced to fish and chips by my late husband who was English. I was born in 1942 and lived in Wellington until the age of 13, our house was on the top of the hill above the Karori and Northland Tunnnels, not that remote! We children would walk to Northland for the Evening Post, or to Karori for the cinema, but I do not remember ever seeing a fish and chip shop, and I cannot imagine our mothers cooking them.

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