You Will Have by Kruger
Half of the clues each have a letter added to one word in their definition which is then usually (but not always) jumbled – not all of the answers filling the available space. The unclued entry and two other contributors, who must be highlighted, hint at the theme. In clue order, the extra letters give instructions as to how to complete the puzzle correctly, thereby providing confirmation of the title. All final grid entries are real words, phrases or proper nouns.
It looks like our setters are digging into a barrel labelled “devious ways to generate extra letters from crossword clues”. Here we have, yet another new and unusual technique. I thought that I was going to struggle and, indeed I did at first. I’ve also noticed (and I don’t know if setters do it deliberately) that there are often some glaringly obvious words that immediately become candidates for being messed around. For example: rasta (1a), toeclip (40a), nikah (11d), marryat (27d).
I think 13a ATINGLE was the first one I got. I guess my eyes were drawn to GENITALS (throbbing or otherwise) though, at first, I thought that GENITALS would be shielding an extra letter.
It’s always a bit worrying when we’re told that an indeterminate amount of answers aren’t going to fit. And this worry continues as you solve more and more clues and have found only one that didn’t fit. As it turns out, of course, there were only two – 1a HERO and 43a HARK.
As the grid fill continued, I took a look at the unclued entry. I had: G_ESTH__T. Is it German? Is it someone’s name? Ah – it’s GORMENGHAST – no, silly, of course it’s not! Then, suddenly, out of nowhere, I realised that it was two words GUEST HOST.
Now, AFAIK, the term guest host was coined by the panel game, Have I Got News For You, when Angus Deayton “chose” to leave as regular presenter. Obviously now I knew that the two other contributors had to be [Ian] HISLOP and [Paul] MERTON but I couldn’t see them in the grid. This was largely due to the fact that I didn’t have 11d (my LOI) and I had messed up 1d. I had misremembered Noah’s son as HAL and had entered HALL (with a definition of “mess” from STEMS). I know, I know, don’t ever write an answer in unless you are 100% confident!
Eventually, as I set about deciphering the extra letters, I realised that my “T” in 1d must be wrong. All corrections done, I found MERTON in a4-a9 and HISLOP in m5-m10.
Extra letters spelt out AMEND GRID TO BE AFFIRMATIVE and since there is a blank space next to the word YOU in two locations, it took a lot longer than it should have to realise that, in order to answer the question, HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU? in the affirmative, we had to change the grid from YOU to NEWS. Thus confirming the puzzle’s title and creating new entries for 1a, 5d, 6d, 7d, 31d, 29d, 35d and 43a.
Good fun from Kruger. I’ve watched HIGNFY on and off since its inception. It went through a phase where the guests seemed to be concentrating on outswearing one another but it seems that some of the guests have realised that they don’t need to rely on cuss words to get a laugh. Arguably, the most memorable episode was in June 2003 with guest host Sir Bruce Forsyth. Ian Hislop’s facial expressions were priceless as he was dragged into a world he never knew existed.
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Many thanks, Kruger.
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Clue |
Amended clue |
Entry |
Letters |
Wordplay |
1 Rasta narcotic not fashionable (5) |
Star narcotic not fashionable |
HERO HERON |
A |
HERO[in] (narcotic) minus IN (fashionable) |
8 Male excitedly mating (5) | Male excitedly giant | MAGOG | M |
Male+AGOG (excitedly) |
12 A wee problem: man leaving a Rumanian injured … (6) |
ANURIA | RU[man]IAN (MAN leaving) anag: injured | ||
13 … Throbbing genitals endlessly hurting (7) |
ATINGLE | GENITAL[s] (endlessly) anag: hurting | ||
14 Untie young animal beside fallen tree shortly (7) |
Unit young animal beside fallen tree shortly |
LAMBERT | E |
LAMB (young animal)+TRE[e] (shortly; rev: fallen) |
15 One old coin not originally founded in Nigerian city (6) |
ILORIN | I (one)+[f]LORIN (old coin; not originally) | ||
16 ‘Little’ Dickensian heard sound of bell (5) |
KNELL | Sounds like “Little” Nell Trent (Dickens character) | ||
18 Novice found time (4) | Voice found time | EMIT | N |
TIME (anag or reverse) I’m not really sure how “found” is an anagram or reversal indicator! |
21 It’s coloured Ian’s long wish to dispose of wife (8) |
GREENISH | GREEN (long; Scottish: Ian’s)+[w]ISH (minus Wife) | ||
22 Final words in Royal Society’s legal referrals (7) |
RENVOIS | Royal Society containing ENVOI (final words) | ||
24 With no latitude, furious pilot loads headgear (4) |
With no latitude, furious pilot sola headgear |
TOPI | D |
PI[l]OT (minus Latitude) anag: furious |
28 Act upset, otherwise forget American (4) |
Act upset, otherwise fetor American |
ODOR | G |
DO (act; rev: upset)+OR (otherwise) |
29 Realign old car with front of indicator broken (7) |
Genial old car with front of indicator broken |
CORDIAL | R |
OLD+CAR+I[ndicator] (front of) anag: broken |
30 Head partially accepting notice of leaver? Don’t mention it! (8, 3 words) |
NOT AT ALL | NOLL (head) containing TA–TA (notice of leaver) I’m not sure what “partially” is doing here. |
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32 Toni’s sick, having enteritis (4) | Toni’s sick, having interest | INTO | I |
TONI (anag: sick) |
34 Clown recalled dog docked with leading edge of knife (5) |
GROCK | CORG[i] (dog; minus I: docked; rev: recalled)+K[nife] (leading edge) | ||
38 Turbulent sea that’s initially really more tranquil (6) |
EASIER | SEA (anag: turbulent)+IE (that is)+R[eally] (initially) | ||
39 SE Asian owns half of preposterously dismal dinner rooms (7) |
SE Asian owns half of preposterously dismal inner rooms |
THALAMI | D |
THAI (SE Asian) containing [dis]MAL (half of; rev: preposterously) |
40 Location of toeclip starts to trouble his awkward nail? Not in some places (7) |
Location of police starts to trouble his awkward nail? Not in some places |
THANNAH | T |
T[rouble]+H[is]+A[wkward]+N[ail] (starts to)+NAH (not, locally: in some places) |
41 Letters from provost mentioned Danish settlers (6) |
OSTMEN | provOST MENtioned (hidden: letters from) | ||
42 Aboard vessel, drunk overturned part of cargo (5) |
Aboard vessel, drunk overturned part of crag |
STOSS | O |
SOT (drunk; rev: overturned) inside SS (vessel) |
43 Give bare husband a right kick in the rear (5) |
Give ear husband a right kick in the rear |
HARK SHARK |
B |
Husband+A+Right+[kic]K (in the rear) |
Down | ||||
1 Arkwright’s son gathers lupin’s first stems (4) |
HALM | HAM (son of Noah: arkwright) containing L[upin] (first) | ||
2 Men nearly ready to play with differently coloured horns (7) |
ENARMED | MEN+READ[y] (nearly) anag: to play | ||
3 Game parliamentarian’s cute (4) |
Game parliamentarian’s cut |
RUMP | E |
RU (rugby union: game)+MP (parliamentarian) |
4 Circle antelope losing heart and tense (5) |
ORBIT | OR[i]BI (antelope’ losing heart)+Tense | ||
5 Yemen beginning to neglect allies perhaps (4) |
Yemen beginning to neglect lisle perhaps |
YARN EARN |
A |
YAR (Yemen)+N[eglect] (beginning to) |
6 Note rows about cowboy films (6) |
OATERS WATERS |
TE (note) inside OARS (rows) | ||
7 Useful tree’s appeal kept back (5) |
UTILE STILE |
ULE (tree) containing IT ([sex] appeal; rev:back) | ||
8 Money to repel oil waste in marine growth (9) |
MILLEPORE | Money+REPEL OIL (anag: waste) | ||
9 Foils insects eating nearly all of combed wool (7) |
Oils insects eating nearly all of combed wool |
ANOINTS | F |
ANTS (insects) containing NOI[l] (combed wool; nearly all of) |
10 Frank smelling crude oil departs (4) |
Rank smelling crude oil departs |
OLID | F |
OIL+Departs (anag: crude) |
11 Inside information on good man’s nikah (7) |
Inside information on good man’s Khan |
GENGHIS | I |
GEN (inside information)+Good+HIS (man’s) |
17 Overcoming launch of investigation, former pupil raised money for health essential (6) |
BIOTIN | OB (old boy: former pupil; rev: raised) containing I[nvestigation] (launch of)+TIN (money) | ||
19 Wizard bank only one time mislays gross moulded pieces of armlet (6) |
Wizard bank only one time mislays gross moulded pieces of metal |
INGOTS | R |
[gr]INGOT[t]S (bank in Harry Potter; minus second T and GRoss) |
20 Using general intelligence, enters no units (9) |
ROENTGENS | G (general intelligence)+ENTERS+NO anag: using | ||
21 Numb fool conceals onset of sensations (4) |
Nub fool conceals onset of sensations |
GIST | M |
GIT (fool) containing S[ensations] (onset of) |
23 Hold new drum (4) | DHOL | HOLD (anag: new) | ||
25 Bits of armour many allow inside (7) |
TONLETS | TONS (many) containing LET (allow) | ||
26 Sun and rain affected fluorescent salts (7) |
URANINS | SUN+RAIN (anag: affected) | ||
27 Marryat once left before clock-watcher (7) |
Martyr once left before clock-watcher |
LATIMER | A |
Left+A TIMER (clock-watcher) |
29 Company stocks the whole hospital’s fetta (6) |
Company stocks the whole hospital’s fate |
CLOTHO CLOTHE |
T |
COmpany containing LOT (the whole)+Hospital |
31 Nepali tapestry almost unknown (5) |
Panel tapestry almost unknown |
ARRAY ARRAN |
I |
ARRA[s] (tapestry; nearly)+Y (unknown) |
32 Ruskin’s lack of wealth leads to impoverishment, less leisure time and hardship (5) |
ILLTH | I[mpoverishment] L[ess] L[eisure] T[ime] H[ardship] (leads to) | ||
33 Club admits hard oriental chavs (4) |
Club admits hard oriental cash |
BAHT | V |
BAT (club) containing Hard |
35 Dear footwear reported (4) | CHOU CHOW |
Sounds like SHOE (footwear) | ||
36 Priest from Alabama lately retired (4) |
LAMA | alabAMA Lately (hidden: from; rev: retired) | ||
37 Maltese publisher’s top printing material (4) |
Samlet publisher’s top printing material |
PINK | E |
P[ublisher] (top)+INK (printing material) |
Dear Kenmac, I really enjoyed this puzzle but I, too, took a long time getting the final substitution because YES and YEP fitted but left blanks. I could not get the YouTube clip, just an announcement about copyright problems. Are you posting from outside the UK or is there something I can do to access it?
Yesyep @1
I just managed to access the link from my work computer. Try just searching for “HIGNFY Bruce Forsyth” there seem to be a few videos available.
This is my first Kruger (since starting Inquisitor puzzles in mid-March), and I enjoyed every minute of it. Solving it went strictly NE corner clockwise to the NW corner – not according to any sort of rule, of course, but purely because that was the only way the grid yielded for me.
I appreciated all of Kruger’s clues. ENARMED and EMIT were the last two answers to reveal themselves – for no reason that I can explain. The last one I managed to parse was INGOTS because I had never heard of the ‘Wizard bank’ indicated in the clue. (But a family member who has not seen the films has at least read a couple of the books!) My favourite clue was for 27d LATIMER: it took me a while to solve even though ‘Marryat’ seemed to be screaming out to the solver to do something with it (exactly as you said, kenmac). I managed to spell out the 24-letter message without difficulty, and it actually helped me to solve (or at least to parse) EMIT and TOPI.
The two occurrences of YOU with the blank cells next to them seemed ripe for transformation and completion, and the two NEWS items duly obliged, S being the only letter I could think of to go in at the bottom and a choice of N, D and S at the top.
Many thanks to Kruger and kenmac.
I found solving this very a very similar experience to last week’s – an enjoyable process with just a few loose ends I wasn’t satisfied with, though I think I’d ironed out most of them in the end and you’ve cleared up almost all the rest. I don’t seem to have been able to parse 7D, but looking at it now I suspect I was trying to parse the adapted version, STILE, rather than the original UTILE, having made the alteration in the grid prematurely. I was confused by 29A, having searched long and hard for an anagram of b-o-k-e-n meaning cordial. It hadn’t occurred to me that the clue worked with broken as the anagram indicator rather than realign. I also had the question about the ‘found’ in 18A – I’m prepared to accept it as an anagram indicator, in the sense of ‘to cast’, but it never feels right to have an anagram which is just a reversal of the word.
Thanks to kenmac and to Kruger for digging into the barrel of inventiveness, but by no means scraping the bottom.
Likewise many thanks from me to Kruger and kenmac. Seeing GUEST HOST was the key moment here too — no doubt there are lots of programmes which have one of these, but HIGNFY is the only one I know. The two “contributors” followed more or less immediately, and what to do with ” YOU” and “YOU ” seemed (with help from the title) clear enough. It took a while, though, to sort out the remaining spare letters of the affirmative message. Until then there was the usual lurking fear that it was all a deep-laid trap with MERTON and HISLOP needing to be changed to TRILBY and FEDORA.
19D: I’ve been avoiding even thinking about Harry Potter since writing a whole book about that phenomenon back in the day. But Gringotts stuck in the mind somehow.
I was fearing a toughie upon seeing Kruger as the setter and the mention of blank cells but it turned out to be not too tricky after all. After getting the theme (also by spotting GUEST HOST emerge), I spent some time looking for ‘tub of lard’ somewhere in the grid. The use of Gringotts made me smile.
And a second recent appearance for Mr. Merton, following his role as a joker a couple of weeks ago.
Cheers Kruger
Enjoyable, and not too tricky this week. Though surely the contributors are on the wrong side of the guest host? No problems sorting the extra letters and their interpretation, for once, so all in all things went fairly smoothly.
An entertaining puzzle from the ever-reliable Kruger. The two occurrences of NEWS to replace YOU seemed so straightforward that I wondered for a while if there was still more to do. I wasn’t quite sure about the “affirmative” business – I can see that changing the title of the show to I Have Got News For You suggests the necessary grid changes, but I’m not convinced that it really confirms the title of the puzzle, but rather alludes to it. Still, all good fun, thank you Kruger.
Jon @7
I thought that they were in the wrong positions too but on reflection, they’re in the places they are relative to the GUEST HOST, i.e. MERTON is on his/her left and HISLOP on his/her right.
A very good puzzle, I thought, tricky but fair. It was one of those where (slowly) I had the grid almost complete and still no idea what to do (how do you amend a grid to be affirmative?). Unlike others, it was spotting Merton and Hislop running down the sides (I do appreciate it when hidden names are not too hidden) that gave the game away. A sudden rush from this to the replacement of the ‘you’s with news, and finally that mysterious phrase across the centre (I still hadn’t filled a couple of crossing words, hence the difficulty).
Thanks to Kruger, for one of the best of the year for me, and kenmac for clearing up some details.
Very entertaining. I straightforward IQ puzzle, if there is such a thing. I didn’t get the theme until the very end,which I can only ascribe to dimness on my part as it is pretty clear to see. Perhaps that was the problem, I have gotten so used to looking for stuff on the edge of my knowledge that I can’t see something when it stares me in the face.
Thanks Kruger and kenmac.
“A straightforward puzzle…”
I thought that this was a great example of what an Inquisitor could be – not (almost) impossibly difficult or super-fast easy, a novel device for generating a message, an unclued entry to be figured out, a couple of relevant items to be found hidden in the grid, and finally following the instruction to effect the required changes & complete the puzzle. Bravo, Kruger.
And of course thanks to kenmac for the blog. I agree with OPatrick @4 that “found” in 18a is to be read in the sense of “cast, or mould”. And in 30a, I took “head partially” to be there because Chambers has NOLL as “the top of the head”.
For a while I had THANNA (no terminal H) at 40a as another ‘short’ entry, but the intersecting CLOTHO put me right.
And finally, as far as the programme is concerned, HIGNFY is a statement not a question. but I guess that “affirmative” still works.
My thanks to all, as usual.
When I submitted this puzzle (quite a while ago), I genuinely thought that I had come up with a novel way of generating a message. However, the very next weekend a puzzle using the same “+letter & anagram” technique was published. I think it was in IQ but I can’t be certain or remember the puzzle or setter.