Financial Times 16,458 by NEO

Neo provides this morning’s distraction (for a short while at least)

I don’t always find Neo’s puzzles as straightforward as this one.  Some of the answers took very little thought at all, especially the chestnut at 25ac that I have seen before several times, and the 3-letter across entries.

On the other hand, Neo used obscure old Canadian geography and an unusual word (CHINE) in crossers in the top left corner, which held me up for a few seconds.  I’m not much of a historian, so only know ACADIA as a national park in New England, so was thrown by the reference to Canada, and I haven’t come across CHINE as a ravine before.

Thanks, Neo.

Across
9 COCHINEAL Scarlet and black rock enclosing ravine (9)
  COAL (“black rock”) enclosing CHINE (“ravine”)
10 LINGO Text shortened, depart peculiar vocabulary (5)
  LIN(e) (“text”, shortened) + GO (“depart”)
11 DOWAGER Active sort about to shake grand old woman (7)
  DOER (“active sort”) about WAG (“to shake”)
12 CRANIUM Nutcase has stuff about Ulster University (7)
  CRAM (“stuff”) about NI (Northern Ireland, so “Ulster’) + U (university)
13 ALI Left cuts first-rate boxer (3)
  L (left) cuts A1 (“first-rate”)
14 SALESPERSON One working as rep no less (11)
  *(as rep no less) [anag:working] and &lit.
17 DOGMA Blind faith seen in one having puppies? (5)
  A DOG MA (as in “a mother dog”) could be described as one having puppies.
18 ONE United were victorious reportedly (3)
  Homophone of [reportedly] WON (“were victorious”)
19 EIDER Bird shows colour – that is when reflected (5)
  <=(RED (“colour”) + I.E. (“that is”)) reflected
21 STAIR CARPET It protects in covering both flight and landing (5,6)
  Cryptic definition
23 SUM Wrestler loses nothing in total (3)
  SUM(o) (“wrestler” loses O (nothing))
25 ORCHARD Where one finds fruit or vegetable (7)
  OR + CHARD (“vegetable”)
27 DRAGOON Soldier feeding egg to fiery monster (7)
  O (“egg”) fed to DRAGON (“fiery monster”)
28 NONET Conservationists engaging a certain ensemble (5)
  NT (National Trust, so “conservationists”) engaging ONE (“a certain”)
29 SPOTLIGHT Modest accepting trophy and fame (9)
  SLIGHT (“modest”) accepting POT (“trophy”)
Down
1 ACADIA Canadian region rural paradise Republican deserts (6)
  A(r)CADIA deserted by R (“Republican”)

Acadia was an area in Eastern Canada, and Arcadia, a rough unspoiled wilderness in Greek mythology, the home of the god Pan.

2 SCOWLING Lowering second engine cover (8)
  S (second) + COWLING (“engine cover”)
3 RINGO STARR Drummer in band old celeb at bar ultimately (5,5)
  RING (“band”) + O (old) + STAR (“celeb”) at (ba)R [ultimately]
4 BEAR Stick close to concierge in block (4)
  [close to] (concierg)E in BAR (“block”)
5 BLACK SHEEP Family outcast threatening animal (5,5)
  BLACK (“threatening”) + SHEEP (“animal”)
6 FLEA Female by meadow in small jumper (4)
  F (female) by LEA (“meadow”)
7 GNEISS Rock agreeable to an audience (6)
  Homophone [to an audience] of NICE (“agreeable”)
8 COMMONER One from hoi polloi more frequently encountered (8)
  Double definition
15 LEOPARDESS One spotted crossing road asleep so needing treatment (10)
  *(asleep so) [anag:needing treatment] crossing Rd. (road)
16 EVENTUALLY EU partner to bridge gap sooner or later (10)
  EU + ALLY (“partner”) to bridge VENT (“gap”)
17 DISMOUNT Desert Arab perhaps converted to nudism (8)
  *(to nudism) [anag:converted]

An Arab in this context refers to a horse.

20 DISLODGE Drive away from one small lake in Kansas City (8)
  1 (one) + S (small) + L (lake) in DODGE (City in Kansas)
22 ACCENT Stress caused where Bill needs money (6)
  AC (account, so “bill”) needs CENT (“money”)
24 MINUTE Exact time (6)
  Double definition
26 ALTO One sax used in national tour (4)
  Hidden [used] in “nationAL TOur”
27 DOOR Quack to keep ducks closer? (4)
  Dr. (doctor, so “quack”) to keep O+O (zeroes, or “ducks” in cricket)

*anagram

23 comments on “Financial Times 16,458 by NEO”

  1. Hovis

    Reckon I found this harder than you did, loonapick. Indeed, I usually find Neo easier than this one. I did finish though, having only to check both ACADIA and ARCADIA were correct.

    The homophone at 18a (an anagram of the setter) is one I have seen before so accept some people must pronounce them the same.

    The NW sector held me up the most but eventually (16d) got SCOWLING which opened it up. Have only seen CHINE in reference to the back before. DISMOUNT was my LOI. “Desert Arab” indeed! Excellent!

    Thanks to Neo and loonapick.

  2. Hornbeam

    I found this easier than the usual Neo, and loved a couple of clues (especially 21ac STAIRCARPET — and I hadn’t come across ‘closer’ to mean ‘door’ before). Thanks, Neo, and loonapik as usual

  3. crypticsue

    Short and sweet but as entertaining as ever thank you Neo – a setter whose alter egos seem to appear daily in one publication or another lately

    There are a lot of ‘chines’ on the Isle of Wight so no problems with that or any other clue apart from the ancient part of Canada

    Thanks to Neo and loonapick

  4. NNI

    Hovis @1
    Is there anybody who doesn’t pronounce WON and ONE exactly the same way?

    Got held up in the NW for a while. BEAR was last in, and I’m still not convinced it equates to STICK.

  5. Loonapick

    NNI @4 – bear with it, and it might come to you

  6. john

    Last two in were “scowling” (being stuck on “coping” as the cover) and “dismount” ( trying to find a Saharan tribe for far too long). Nevertheless an enjoyable solve. To add to crypticsue @3, “chine” is also common around Bournemouth. Incidentally, should have got “cowling” sooner as it was my uncle’s surname! Thanks Neo and loonapick.

  7. Ilan Caron

    thanks N and Loona! I agree was on the easy end of the NeoScale.  Enjoyable — I vaguely remember CHINE being the spine of an animal so was surprised that it also meant ravine (but I guess kind of consistent).  I’d heard of ACADIA University. I think.  I did look it up to make sure though.  DODGE City, Kansas was clever (though not so clever to be protesting against lockdowns there…)

  8. Grant Baynham

    To Hovis & to NNI @ 4:
    I (& presumably Hovis) pronounce the number 1 as, roughly, ‘Wonn’ and the victory as ‘Wunn’. The word ‘wan’ (‘pale’), if I was being careful, I would pronounce slightly differently again.
    Usually it’s loonapick who’s indignant about differentiated Scots pronunciation but I have to say that my Scottish (Kirkintilloch) partner does indeed pronounce ‘One’ & ‘Won’ identically.
    To NNI: ‘He’s a bounder and I can’t stick him at any price’.
    Chambers gives ‘endure’ as def #10.

  9. Grant Baynham

    … and btw I thought SALESPERSON was a beautiful & lit.
    Thanks to both, as always.

  10. Hovis

    GB @8 Yes, that’s indeed how I pronounce them and can’t say I have ever heard anybody pronounce them differently. But, of course, I can imagine some might. Incidentally, I also pronounce “eight” as “eyt” not “ate” but at least I have heard both of these.

  11. WordPlodder

    SALESPERSON and the ‘Desert Arab perhaps…’ were my favourites too. A coincidence that ACADIA happened to appear in the same week as the tragic events a few days ago in Nova Scotia, the area arguably still most associated with the term. CHINE was my new word of the day.

    Thanks to Neo and loonapick

  12. ACD

    Thanks to  Neo and loonapick. Lots of fun. Chine-ravine was new to me, but I did know ACADIA, especially liked desert-Arab-DISMOUNT, and well remember “get out of Dodge” from “Gunsmoke.”

  13. Simon S

    Thanks Neo and loonapick

    Acadia is the source of the term ‘cajun’.

  14. NNI

    To Hovis and GB
    It must be a Scottish pronunciation, because I’ve never heard anyone say ONE and WON differently.
    PS I pronounce all 3 of your 8’s the same.

  15. allan_c

    We found this pretty straightforward.  ACADIA was easy for us as the area in Canada is in Nova Scotia which one of us has visited – many years ago now.  GNEISS was our LOI; we couldn’t see it for ages but we did – 16 – and it was nice (pun intended!) not having to use a wordfinder.

    Lots of good clues: DISMOUNT was our favourite.

    Thanks, Neo and loonapick.

  16. brucew@aus

    Thanks Neo and loonapick

    Found it at the lower end of his difficulty scale too, getting most of it done in one shortish sitting and polishing off the two or three clues in quick time after a break.  Thought that the &lit was excellent at 14a and chuckled at DOG MA.

    DISMOUNT was very clever and was the third to last in, followed by SPOTLIGHT and DISLODGE the last one in.

  17. Tony Santucci

    Generally straightforward but nonetheless crafty — enjoyed SALESPERSON, RINGO STARR, LEOPARDESS, DISLODGE, and the very clever DISMOUNT. Failed to get DOOR as I don’t usually think of doctors as quacks (even though 50% of them graduated in the bottom half of their classes) and I know very little about cricket. Thanks Neo and Loonapick.

  18. Moly

    I got there with Dislodge the LOI

    I’m in the foothills of the cryptic crossword world. Maybe just me, but I find comments like “for a short while at least “in Loonapick’s introduction unhelpful. This is a great website, and the solvers do a marvellous job explaining the clues. Thanks for that – sincerely.

    But the cocky comments that one or two of you occasionally come out with, such as the one I cite above, always jar a bit with me.

    This learner, who has to work hard, doesn’t need to be made to feel in adequate by his teacher.

    Thanks for everything else. It really is a great site and this is meant to be constructive feedback

  19. Martin Brice

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  20. Loonapick

    Moly@18

    I apologise if my comment came across as “cocky”. It was not intended as such. It was my personal experience of the puzzle, but I appreciate that solvers will represent a broad spectrum, from newbies to masters, so it could have come across that way. My bad!

  21. Neo

    Hello.

    Thanks for all your comments. They were very gneiss.

    Cheers

    Neo

  22. brucew@aus

    Hi Moly

    I wouldn’t take the ‘cocky comments’ too much to heart.  The time that it takes to complete a crossword is really neither here nor there, it’s more the enjoyment that you personally get out of a) completing it at all and/or b) having fun along the way.  It’s a bit like playing golf with a single handicapper – he might get around in 78 and I might take 100 – still I can admire him for his skill and be happy that I got less than the 110 that I may have had the last time and enjoy the walk around the course whilst doing it.

    I find that setters vary in the degree of difficulty from puzzle to puzzle and it can depend on the state of mind one is in when one starts.  I was able to complete one the other day very quickly from a setter who usually takes me 3-4 times that long.  Meanwhile I’m still chewing over the last clue in a Basilisk puzzle from last month !  🙂

    Am assuming that loonapick was able to finish this one much quicker than he normally would with one of Neo’s.

  23. Moly

    Thanks for your feedback. And please, Loonapick, no need for apologies. I was doing my best to provide some constructive feedback and which is always a bit difficult in print.

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