Independent 10,762 by Serpent

We were more than pleased when we realised we were blogging a Serpent puzzle today.

There were a few nifty devices used today with also a couple of definitions which we needed to check – we’re still not sure about 24d.

We are always on the lookout for something else in a Serpent puzzle but the only thing we can find today are the two 15-letter crossing answers which contain MIDDLE and CENTRE – using the middle row and column and centre square – very neat.

Thanks Serpent.

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
8. River Test perhaps associated with certain types of plant (10)
INDUSTRIAL

INDUS (river) TRIAL (test)

9. See 1 Down
10. Where one might go to mix and produce New Order (6)
RESORT

Double definition

11. Effete English rogue gripped by depression (8)
DECADENT

E (English) CAD (rogue) inside or ‘gripped by’ DENT (depression)

12. Person who employs American head of state (4)
USER

US (American) ER (head of state)

14. Explicit film stopping progress by one member going too far (4,3,3)
OVER THE TOP

OVERT (explicit) + ET (film) inside or ‘stopping’ HOP (progress by one member). We had a smile sorting out the parsing of this when we realised that if you were hopping, you would be using one ‘member’.

16. Where Force acts also leads to violence and vandalism (6,2,7)
CENTRE OF GRAVITY

A whimsical parsing here – the CENTRE or middle letter OF GRAVITY is V and it is also the first letter or ‘leads’ to violence and vandalism.

18. Approach case of leprosy with treatment of dubious validity (10)
APOCRYPHAL

An anagram (‘with treatment’) of APPROACH and L Y (first and last letters or ‘case’ of leprosy)

20. Show embarrassment, ultimately going pink (4)
GORE

GO REd (show embarrassment) with last letter missing or ‘ultimately going’. We had to check the definition here. The only link we could find in Chambers was for Dutch pink which is a slang term for blood (gore). Thanks Hovis@1 – we missed that.

21. Relatively unknown economist ran German banks (8)
STRANGER

Hidden (‘banked by’) in economiST RAN GERman

23. Dull parent replaces contents of diary (6)
DREARY

REAR (parent) replacing the middle letters or ‘contents’ of DiarY

25. Glance through second novel by Kipling (4)
SKIM

S (second) KIM (novel by Kipling)

26. Where fare-dodger’s journey ends? (10)
STARVATION

A cryptic definition with the ‘fare’ referring to food and not transport

DOWN
1/9. Horny beast and colonist run off together (8)
ANTELOPE

ANT (‘colonist’) ELOPE (run off together)

2. Big Brother writer has cast actor for second half (8)
AUTOCRAT

AUThor (writer) with an anagram (‘cast’) of ACTOR replacing the second half

3. Reporter’s still writing material? (10)
STATIONERY

Sounds like (‘reporter’s’) STATIONARY (still)

4. Boring way to describe Reading? (6-2-3-4)
MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD

Another whimsical definition – the MIDDLE letter OF ‘THE ROAD’ is R which can stand for ‘Reading’ – one of the three Rs

5. Look to oust broadcaster’s central position in syndicate (4)
BLOC

LO (look) replacing or ‘ousting’ the middle letter or ‘central position’ of BBC (broadcaster)

6. Word used by unprincipled genius (6)
PLEDGE

Hidden (‘used by’) in unprinciPLED GEnius

7. Publicist dashes round entrance outside court (4,6)
SPIN DOCTOR

NIPS (dashes) reversed or ’round’ + DOOR (entrance) outside CT (court)

13. Part of fence catching small rider in Grand National lottery? (10)
SWEEPSTAKE

STAKE (part of fence) around or ‘catching’ WEE (small) PS (rider)

15. American tortoise jumped into water to get bird (10)
TURTLEDOVE

TURTLE (whilst we think of a turtle as a marine reptile and a tortoise as land-based, according to Chambers, in America a tortoise can be referred to as a turtle) DOVE (jumped into water – the American version of ‘dived’). Thanks Hovis.

17. Characterful piece given alternative title, oddly (8)
VIGNETTE

An anagram (‘alternative’) of GIVEN + TiTlE (odd letters only)

19. Damp and sticky like shellfish? (6)
CLAMMY

Something like a clam (shellfish) might fancifully be described as CLAMMY

22. Struggle to breathe when doctor rings (4)
GASP

AS (when) inside or ‘ringed by’ GP (doctor)

24. Core component deleted from Android’s top-level directory (4)
ROOT

RObOT (Android) with middle letter or ‘core component’ deleted. We’re not really sure about the definition here but guessed it either refers to the folders used in computing, or to the source from which words are derived.

 

16 comments on “Independent 10,762 by Serpent”

  1. Re: 20a. Chambers has “pink” as a verb meaning to pierce esp with a sword or rapier.

    Small typo in blog. You’ve written “turtle” both times in your explanation for 15d.

    Great puzzle as always.

    No matter how much you push the envelope, it remains stationery.

  2. Regarding 24d, a root directory is highest level in structure ( e.g.c:\ on c drive). Struggled with 20a but eventually did find a definition of pink as a verb to mean stab/pierce. Thanks to Serpent and BertandJoyce.

  3. Got there in the end but only put in GORE without understanding as it seemed the only wordlist candidate that was anywhere near, so thanks Hovis @1 for the full explanation. ‘Pink’ = ‘pierce’ is also linked to ‘pink’ = ‘cut with a scalloped edge’, according to OED. (Incidentally, why does OED get overlooked when quoting dictionaries here? I thought it was supposed to be the ultimate authority for the English language.) Thanks Serpent and B&J.

  4. Just occured to me re: 20a, my mum used to use pinking shears in dressmaking. According to Wikipedia “Before pinking scissors were invented, a pinking punch or pinking iron was used to punch out a decorative hem on a garment.” Now I know where the name came from.

  5. I needed the blog to get the full subtlety of the two long crossing answers, so thanks to Bertandjoyce for that. I rarely do get what I think of as “self-referential” clues (what are they really called?). Excellent stuff all round, and I particularly enjoyed the one member hopping, the misdirection of the fare-dodger and clammy being like a clam. Made me smile. Thanks to Serpent and Bertandjoyce

  6. Johnnybgoode @6: yep, pinking shears is what justified it for me before I looked it up. And pinking shears produce a serrated/scalloped cut as per Tatrasman’s comment. I did also wonder whether pink/claret blood/gore was going to be the definition.

    I find Serpent one of the harder setters here but found the wavelength today, spotting lurkers and anagram fodder and even some of those tricky substitutions like the very clever BLOC. Like B&J, I enjoyed the wit in OVER THE TOP and also the amusing cd for STARVATION. INDUSTRIAL is a delightful assembly and misdirect. Like Jayjay, I smiled at CLAMMY. Did anyone else struggle for a while to see ANTELOPE? A cheeky trick to split a solution 3,5 over a 4,4 light (have I used that correctly? Doesn’t look right.)

    Thanks Serpent & B&J

  7. @Tatrasman the OED is a reference dictionary for the language and not something commonly found in the average household 🙂 The “crossword dictionary” was Chambers (also known as the BRB or Big Red Book as that’s what it was) as it was readily enough available for solvers and contains a lot of unusual and even obscure words. Collins seems to have settled in as a firm competitor these days as well, and I suppose if we wait long enough Wiktionary might start being referenced too 😉
    On today’s crossword, there’s a lot of praise for the long clues, but if I might offer the other side? The clues amount to “V, where force acts” and “R, boring”. Neither really feel like they’ve caught what’s needed for a reverse cryptic to me. Thanks, though, to Bertandjoyce for the post!

  8. We worked steadily through this and got it all, but along with others were mystified as to why gore = pink and didn’t grasp the full significance of 4dn. And, this being a Serpent puzzle, we were so intent on looking for a non-existent nina we didn’t see the obvious centrality of the two long answers.
    Favourites were ANTELOPE and STARVATION.
    Tatrasman@4: The “neglect” of the OED is probably because most, if not all, crossword setters and editors use either Chambers or Collins, which are also the dictionaries most solvers are likely to have access to.
    Thanks, Serpent and B&J

  9. For 6d “used by” seemed an odd indicator of hidden. For a while I was convinced that ANTELOPE was going to be a word meaning “horny” ending in ANT and starting with an animal minus the letter r, but the SPIN DOCTOR put me onto the right answer (a rare occurrence). I echo the general praise for both setter and bloggers.

  10. Nice puzzle marred by the ongoing bug on the website when split clues are used (1/9 in this example) causing the safari browser to lock up and you have to reload – but it’s free and I could always print it out I know!

    Thankyou B&J for explaining the middle two long clues which we got from the straight part of the definition but didn’t understand the cryptic on either!

    Thanks Serpent for the challenge – STARVATION our favourite

  11. Petert @ 12

    If you use something, in one sense you consume it. In another sense, you end up around it. Seems OK to me.

  12. Thanks Postmortes @9 and Allan_c @10 for your comments on my dictionary query. For the record, I also have a Longman’s dictionary (now part of Pearson), which I have never seen referenced here, though it seems as good as the others to me.

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