Financial Times 17,407 by Pedrock

12 comments on “Financial Times 17,407 by Pedrock”

1. 

   lady gewgaw

   #1 - Fri 12th May 23, 23:53

   
   

   Pedrock’s Polymaths are absolutely excellent. His entry here into the cryptic world seems to have been somewhat of a tricky fit, but there are some lovely ideas here. I liked the IN plus FORMATION split very much.

2. 

   Martyn

   #2 - Sat 13th May 23, 02:01

   
   

   Thanks Pete

   After sailing through the Jumbo, I answered six or seven clues from this puzzle in short time. Well, pride does come before a fall, it seems. I then found the rest of the puzzle quite difficult, taking me a long time to complete.

   I agree with your comments, both overall and for individual clues. I must admit I still do not know why CLIP JOINT is a place were customers are overcharged – I am sure it stems from an expression that is unknown to me. And I thank you for parsing MOIRA – I happened to throw in the correct answer without really understanding the clue.

   Agree with lady gewgaw on IN FORMATION, and I rather liked CATAMARAN.

   Thanks Pedrock and Pete.

3. 

   KVa

   #3 - Sat 13th May 23, 02:30

   
   

   Thanks, Pedrock and Pete Maclean!
   CUE, JUMP-START, THIN AIR and AD NAUSEUM: I share your views.
   Liked HASTA MANANA and COPYRIGHT.

   Martyn@2
   CLIP JOINT (wiktionary)
   Etymology
   From clip (“to cheat, swindle, or fleece”) and joint (“disparaging US slang for a place of business”).
   Noun
   (informal) An establishment, usually a strip club or bar, in which customers are tricked into paying money only to receive poor goods or services or none at all.

   I have a different doubt: Do people (at times) mean ‘a barber’s shop’ when they say ‘a clip joint’?
   I tried treating ‘barber’ as a verb, but the ‘s was spoiling my parsing.

   AD NAUSEUM
   Considered ‘a dead’ as AD and then got stuck. Couldn’t see any wordplay.

4. 

   Hovis

   #4 - Sat 13th May 23, 05:54

   
   

   Just to add – it’s a pangram.

5. 

   KVa

   #5 - Sat 13th May 23, 05:55

   
   

   The solutions are available online on the same day. Looks like it is not a prize puzzle.

6. 

   Roz

   #6 - Sat 13th May 23, 06:06

   
   

   For MOIRA I had MOA(n) about IR(e) , both with no end by one letter.

7. 

   Roz

   #7 - Sat 13th May 23, 06:20

   
   

   Thanks for the blog, another new setter for me, very concise clues , generally pretty neat.
   KVA@3 you are right , a barbers or hairdressers may be facetiously called a clip-joint , I think I may even have seen it as a shop name, barbers tend to show a bit of imagination naming their places, more than other types of shop.
   The (Felix) KLEIN bottle is a bit like a Mobius band with no boundaries, I have seen glass versions of thes but they are not fully genuine, it is only totally possible in 4-D space.

8. 

   Pete Maclean

   #8 - Sat 13th May 23, 10:58

   
   

   Thank you, Roz. I have edited the description of MOIRA.

9. 

   Tony Santucci

   #9 - Sat 13th May 23, 14:14

   
   

   Thanks Pedrock for a super crossword. Whenever I see a word like EXCHEQUER I look for a pangram and I was not disappointed. My top choices were INFORMATION, ILLEGAL, and MAESTRI. Thanks Pete for the blog.

10. 

    FrankieG

    #10 - Sun 14th May 23, 10:03

    
    

    KVa@5
    https://app.ft.com/content/a5c6b91c-1ae2-11e7-9519-a200b6e21c5a
    says ‘Crossword and Polymath competitions suspended
    Dear readers – we have suspended the competitions while our editors work from home.
    We hope you continue to enjoy completing them until services resume
    June 5 2020’
    It’s coming up for three years now. Isn’t it about time 225 gave up waiting for services to resume and blogged the Saturdays without waiting a week?

11. 

    SM

    #11 - Mon 15th May 23, 07:15

    
    

    I quite agree with FrankieG @10. We did try with the FT crossword editor last year but it should be worth another go? Perhaps through 225.It is always a little tricky to remember the puzzle after seven days.
    I enjoyed this puzzle so thanks to both.

12. 

    Cellomaniac

    #12 - Mon 15th May 23, 23:34

    
    

    SM & FrankieG, I deal with the 7-day delay by waiting 6 days before tackling the puzzle. There are always other puzzles to do on the day this one comes out, so I don’t see any problem.

    Thanks Pedrock and Pete for the fun and wise comments.

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