Independent 11,541 by Methuselah

Us again! Methuselah provides this Saturday’s challenge.

Unfortunately, we didn’t really enjoy this as much as we had hoped. Some of the clues seem rather ‘clunky’ (21d for example) with a few tenuous definitions, while others seemed too easy (e.g 22d). Perhaps it’s just us. We did enjoy 20ac however.

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
6. Blokes with love for power causing havoc (5)
CHAOS

CHApS (blokes) with O (love) replacing the ‘p’ (power)

7. Nose put out of joint by shameless suggestions (9)
OVERTONES

An anagram (‘put out of joint’) of NOSE after (‘by’) OVERT (shameless)

10. Drinking buddy knocked back beer shortly before golf (7)
LAPPING

A reversal (‘knocked back’) of PAL (buddy) + PINt (beer) missing the last letter or ‘shortly’ + G (golf – in the phonetic alphabet)

11. Don’t forget: I like skinny-dippers to swallow chlorine (7)
INCLUDE

I NUDE (like skinny-dippers) round or ‘swallowing’ CL (chlorine)

12. Very bad egg seizes on signs of debt (9)
EGREGIOUS

EGG round or ‘seizing’ RE (on) + IOUS (‘signs of debt’)

13. Private property where hound doesn’t need lead (5)
ASSET

bASSET (hound) missing the first letter or ‘not needing lead’

14. DCIs troop about, keeping eyes peeled for correctional officers (4,7)
COPY EDITORS

An anagram (‘about’) of DCIS TROOP round or ‘keeping’ eYEs without the first and last letters (‘peeled’)

20. Has Portillo oddly dropped May’s predecessor? (5)
APRIL

Alternate letters (‘oddly dropped’) of hAs PoRtIlLo

22. Look after recording of game played by Venus and Serena Williams? (9)
TENNESSEE

SEE (look) after a homophone (‘recording’) of TENNIS (game played by Venus and Serena) – a reference to Tennessee Williams, the American playwright

24. Irish county‘s accomplished – another’s losing its way (7)
DONEGAL

DONE (accomplished) + GALway (another Irish county, missing or ‘losing’ ‘way’)

25. Striker sent off after starting on a sub (7)
TORPEDO

A cryptic definition – a TORPEDO (‘striker’) is launched (‘sent off’) from a sub(marine). The football misdirection doesn’t quite work for us, but maybe we’re being a bit picky?

26. Some lingo in need of circulation (9)
NEOLOGISM

A clue-as-definition – an anagram (‘in need of circulation’) of SOME LINGO – a NEOLOGISM is a new word or the new use of an established word (‘some lingo’) which would be ‘in need of circulation’ to gain acceptance

27. See 2 Down
DOWN
1. Parasitic imp struggling with vicar (8)
VAMPIRIC

An anagram (‘struggling’) of IMP and VICAR

2/27. In role of monarch, heir ignores son’s latest quote (6,5)
ASKING PRICE

AS KING (‘in the role of monarch’) PRInCE (‘heir’ – to the throne) missing or ‘ignoring’ the ‘n’ (last letter or ‘latest’ in son)

3. Little creature‘s become large one, according to Spooner (8)
MONGOOSE

A Spoonerism of GONE (become) MOOSE (large creature) – we’re not keen on Spoonerisms generally, but find them acceptable if they create a natural combination of words – this one doesn’t.

4. Some of us live dangerously around sources of temptation (6)
DEVILS

Hidden (‘some of’) and reversed (‘around’) in uS LIVE Dangerously

5. Charlie more or less gets through drunken toast without slurring (8)
STACCATO

C (Charlie in the phonetic alphabet) CA (approximately – ‘more or less’) in or (‘getting through’) an anagram (‘drunken’) of TOAST

6. Conservative senior’s not so hot (6)
COLDER

C (Conservative) OLDER (senior)

8. Sisters gathering round letter in Sense and Sensibility? (5)
NOUNS

NUNS (sisters) round (‘gathering’) O (’round letter’)

9. Solver repeatedly excoriated Methuselah cryptic (6)
SLEUTH

An anagram (‘cryptic’) of meTHUSELah missing the first two and last two letters (‘repeatedly excoriated’)

15. Multilingual talking parrot ultimately sitting on fortune (8)
POLYGLOT

A homophone (‘talking’) of POLLY (parrot) + G (last or ‘ultimate’ letter of sitting) + LOT (fortune)

16. Writer’s skewering trendy piece of music straight away (2,2,4)
IN NO TIME

I’M (‘writer’s’) in (‘skewered’ by) IN (trendy) NOTE (‘piece of music’)

17. In the end, students carry stories about half-cut academic across whole institution (8)
SYSTEMIC

Last letters (‘in the end’) of studentS carrY storieS abouT + acadEMIC missing the first four letters (‘half-cut’)

18. Damsel‘s rescue secured by knights, perhaps (6)
MAIDEN

AID (rescue) in (‘secured by’) MEN (‘knights perhaps’ – as in chessmen)

19. Buttons turned up volume right before end of pantomime (6)
REMOTE

A reversal (‘turned up’) of TOME (volume) R (right) + E (last letter or ‘end’ of pantomime) – we’re not really convinced by this clue – a remote control does have a lot of buttons and if the surface worked well it might be okay as a definition…. but would one of the cast be responsible for ‘turning up the volume’ in a pantomime?

21. One quarter of peace-mongering outfit (5)
RINGO

Another clue-as-definition: the 5 letters of RINGO make up a quarter of the 20 letters in ‘peace-mongeRING Outfit’ and he was one quarter of the Beatles, who could loosely be described as a ‘peace-mongering outfit’

22. A cool comeback finally written into Bond film (6)
TALKIE

A + L K (last or ‘final’ letters of cool comeback) ‘written’ in TIE (bond)

23. Delighted empty nesters romped atop pantry table, initially (6)
ENRAPT

First or ‘initial’ letters of Empty Nesters Romped Atop Pantry Table

 

13 comments on “Independent 11,541 by Methuselah”

  1. Well, I did enjoy most of it but spent far too long trying and failing to solve 19D, eventually giving up and bunging in ‘remove’ (as it included a V) instead of ‘remote’. Despite which, thanks Methuselah and B&J.

  2. Thanks, Methuselah and B&J!
    Lovely puzzle and a great blog!

    TORPEDO
    I agree with the blog that it’s a CD.
    I see some extra layers:

    There is a Torpedo Deseert -‘after’
    There is a Torpedo Sub (a sandwich)-starting on(of) a sub.
    We are left with the ‘striker sent off’.
    A CD+3 separate defs. Maybe.

  3. If the setter’s name was absent, I would never have guessed Methuselah. Finished this in half the time I would normally spend. A few too many easy clues for my liking but more than made up for by some lovely clues. The NE sector was the only troublesome bit for me. Favourites include: TENNESSEE, DONEGAL, NEOLOGIST, ASKING PRICE, STACCATO & SLEUTH.

  4. Very enjoyable indeed! The usual imaginative clueing from this setter throughout the grid.
    My ticks go to APRIL (great spot) though I clocked it immediately, SLEUTH, TENNESSEE and NOUNS.
    Many thanks to Methuselah and B&J for a top puzzle and blog.

  5. I was beaten by just the one and would never have thought of REMOTE from the word ‘buttons’. ‘Clicker’ in our house. I would never have got Beatles from ‘peace mongering outfit’ either but the solution was easily found. APRIL and TENNESSEE were nice and I liked ‘like skinny dippers’ = NUDE.

    Thanks Methuselah and B&J

  6. Peace mongering – All You Need is Love? Probably not, but that’s how I got there.
    Thanks Methuselah and B&J.

  7. We struggled a bit with this, taking ages to get our last three – SLEUTH, TORPEDO and REMOTE. Plenty to like, though, including APRIL, TENNESSEE and STACCATO.
    Thanks, Methuselah and B&J.

  8. Thanks Methuselah and Bertandjoyce.

    Totally agree with each of the objections you have raised. I was lookin forward to solving this, but too many dodgy clues made for great frustration. The worst Spooner I have ever seen.

    COPY EDITORS
    TENNESSEE, my likes, are not enough to redeem the puzzle.

  9. After a couple of hours, I got just over half done and gave up. Looking at the answers, I don’t see I’d ever have got the rest.

  10. Thanks Methuselah, I enjoyed this despite failing with RINGO, TORPEDO, and IN NO TIME. (After breezing through the top half I struggled in the bottom half.) My top picks were CHAOS (nice surface), the very clever TENNESSEE, ASKING PRICE, DEVILS (nice surface), POLYGLOT (amusing surface), and ENRAPT (amusing surface). Thanks B & J for the blog.

  11. I’m surprised there’s not more enthusiasm for RINGO, undoubtedly my COD, though it could have done with a question mark. I hope it gets a mention in Nimrod’s Weekend i round-up. REMOTE took me more three times as long as the rest of the puzzle put together.

  12. EGREGIOUS – I used to like to use this word, but in its original sense.
    Etymology – From Latin e[x] (“out of”) + grex/gregis (“flock”) – reflecting the positive connotations of “standing out from the flock”
    ‘Conspicuous, exceptional, outstanding; usually in a negative sense’ – like a black sheep.
    It’s very bad that it’s come to mean “very bad”, and that very bad disgraced ex-prime ministers and ex-presidents use it when they could just say “very bad”.
    I liked the clue for TALKIE – a lift-and-separate of “Bond film”
    Thanks M & B&J

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