Independent 11,622 by Eccles

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1. Despite needing to look up three new words which were the answers to 21a, 25a & 3d, I found this easier than this setter’s recent compilations. It was however, as always, a joy to solve, and I was delighted to see the American indicator in 11a.

   My page is littered with ticks. Too many to list them all.

   Quirister, ECHO STOP is fine. See Collins definition 9 for “echo”.

   Many thanks to Eccles and to Quirister.

2. Similar unknowns as Rabbit Dave. Thanks also to RD and the Collins reference. Initially, I entered “ragi” for 21a, purely as a guess, but 14 put me right. In 3d, the blog should say that the OY is reversed (‘about’). I assume that DOHYO and DOJO come from a similar root but I’m just guessing.

3. Trying to post this link:

   https://www.alamy.com/people-taking-blessing-from-aarti-ganga-river-ganges-prayers-pooja-image62144320.html

4. How do we use the link facility in the comment box?

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6. Thanks FrankieG@5

7. Just to add to FrankieG’s comment @5. When using the link facility, it automatically provides the initial “https://“ part, so if you copy the link to a clipboard and then paste it in, this bit might get doubled up, causing it not to work, so you need to delete the repetition. I’ve been caught out by this in the past.

8. It’s not uncommon to deduce an answer from wordplay and then have the pleasure of confirming that it’s right from a dictionary or Wikipedia, but I don’t think I have succeeded in doing it three times in one puzzle before. (DOHYO, ECHO STOP, ARTI) I thought WAR PAINT was a great clue. Thanks, both.

9. Hovis @2: thanks, that was my intention (just omitted when writing up) and I’ve corrected the blog.
   Rabbit Dave @1: my reading of the Collins entry is that you’d call it an “echo stop” if it’s just one of many stops on the organ, and an “echo manual” or “echo organ” if it’s a separate manual exclusively for this sound. But I may be wrong.

10. Quirister @9. I am far from being an organ expert but I think the general nomenclature is that generically “manuals” describe anything (keys and stops) controlled by the hands and “pedals” if controlled by the feet. So a stop controlled by the hands, such as an echo stop, is a manual.

11. Am I the only one who read ‘up’ as an anagrind of the final three letters of Trafalgar, so plumped for ARGI? Clearly my knowledge of Hindi rituals is lacking! Liked CHINWAG and DOHYO, the latter of which was new to me.

    Thanks both.

12. I found this one really difficult – a combination of words I simply didn’t know and parsing that I couldn’t work out! Not our setter’s fault, just mine for being so dense.
    I did enjoy WAR PAINT and smiled about CASTRATE.

    Thanks to Eccles and to Quirister for the decodes.

13. Great puzzle as usual from Eccles! WAR PAINT especially. I think that Quirister is technically correct about the definition of “manual” as a keyboard that controls a division of the organ. Each division comprises a plurality of sets of pipes (stops) (see, e.g., https://www.agohq.org/young-persons-guide/). So an “echo stop” would be controlled by a manual but not be one itself.

14. Thanks both. BUFFALO was my favourite, once I’d fallen hook, line etc. by trying to remember what we’d eaten in Krakow. Amoeba@11 – you are not alone!….I have as much knowledge of Hindu rituals as I do of organs in the musical sense, which, reading some of the comments here, I am not entirely displeased about.

15. Thanks both and this beat me comprehensively (uncomprehendingly?) but I have to own an alliance with jane@12: not Eccles’s fault.

    Knock knock.

    (Knock Airport) Who’s there?

    This is PanAm flight (it’s an old joke..) 7DK from Newark.

    (Knock Airport) Can I have your height and position please.

    I’m 5 foot 11 and I’m up at the front of the plane…..

16. Very late to comment but did want to record my appreciation of another good puzzle by Eccles. I was beaten by DOHYO – I knew DOJO but not the sumo version – and, as a result by THROUGHWAY which is nho. ELUDED, WARPAINT and MARTYRS my faves.

    Thanks both

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