Independent No: 11,757 by Tyrus

Happy Saturday everyone!

A grid from Tyrus for our pleasure today.

There was a lot to like in this, with the expected very twisted clueing that needs mental flexibility to complete. I like the homophone clues as they feel pun-like in their playfulness, and Tyrus is obviously also a fan. The misdirection in 22a was masterful, and helped me overlook the slightly funky spelling of “Nookey”. The use of “FA” in 27 down gave me a LOL moment. Tyrus is a setter who plays with the boundaries of wordplay I think.

I had to rely on online search tools to complete this, and some references were definitely not in my usual ouvre. ENA was referencing Coronation Street character Ena Sharples, and the film reference was an NHO for me. Thankfully Jose Mourinho is in the media so much I knew him despite my general avoidance of football!

Time to deploy this

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I have to take issue with the inclusion of COOLIE.

“Unskilled worker” isn’t the only interpretation of this word. This is also a well-known racial slur, which one would have hoped gave pause to both setter and editor for careful consideration of inclusion. It’s not like they were stuck with it: my crossword solver gave nine other words that would have fitted the crossers. I hope this is simple clumsiness, rather than dismissal of the potential for harm, particularly for the expected large numbers of South Asian solvers on a site with global reach.

Such words exist and we should not pretend otherwise. But should that make any word fair game for grids? My opinion is they are best left for academic analysis or historical acknowledgement, a la Huckleberry Finn, rather than a recreational setting like this, that risks normalising their use. We can all aspire to be more enlightened, particularly the vocabulary virtuosi here who’s work we rightly revere.

Thanks for indulging me if you’ve made it this far, and thanks to Tyrus for the grid.

As ever, definitions are underlined.

 

ACROSS

6. Primate’s rage directed at band (5,3)

GREAT APE

Rage directed [anag. RAGE] at band [TAPE]

 

8. Looking happy – agreed about keeping money I left (6)

SMILEY

Agreed [YES] about [backwards] keeping [around] money I left [MIL]

 

10. Car one American can make (6)

AUSTIN

One [A] American [US] can [TIN]

 

11. Still being here, take car outside (can I get into reverse?) (8)

SURVIVAL

Not totally sure of the parsing of this one. Car [SUV] and can I [LAV I ] get into reverse [backwards = IVAL] but I can’t  quite see how to place the R.

 

12. B1 unconvincing about China according to Macron (7)

THIAMIN

Unconvincing [THIN] about [placed around] China according to Macron [AMI = “friend in French]
Thiamin otherwise known as Vitamin B1

 

15. Animal in motion panicking – too right (7)

POTOROO

Anagram [panicking] of POO [motion] TOO R [right]

Potoroo is a small marsupial

https://images.app.goo.gl/A5hahZqqGwQQUQa19

 

17. Go for champs in broadcast (6)

CHOOSE

Homophone: sounds like “chews” = Champs [“in broadcast”]

 

18. Swing with nurse in front (6)

VENEER

Swing [VEER] with nurse [EN] in

 

20. Didn’t prevent Bale getting punished in final (7)

ENABLED

Bale getting punished [anag BALE] in [placed inside] final [END]

 

22. Senior embracing sex without agreement, say? It’s Trump’s forte (7)

SNOOKER

Senior [SR] embracing [around] sex without agreement [NOOKEY]

I have a feeling I might be mis-parsing this but, this seems to use either a shortening of Senior that is odd (SER), or a spelling of Nooky I’ve never seen before. Love the misdirection though!

 

25. Tire out Pole labouring and abruptly slowing down (8)

RITENUTO

Tire out Pole labouring [anag TIRE OUT + N= North]

 

27. Ability parking gets worse after crash (6)

POWERS

Parking [P] gets worse after crash [anag WORSE]

 

29. Unskilled worker an associate of Bill? That’s not true (6)

COOLIE

Associate of Bill [COO] that’s not true [LIE]
A reference to a 1948 film called “Bill and Coo”.

 

30. Tea with a touch of nutmeg added in is extremely fresh (5,3)

BRAND NEW

Tea [BREW] with [AND] a touch of nutmeg [N] added in [placed inside]

 

DOWN

1. Point creature’s head out (4)

EAST

Creature’s head out [BEAST]

 

2. Old lady eating one’s bread (4)

NAAN

Old lady [NAN] eating [around] one’s [A]

 

3. Guy drinks noisily (5)

TEASE

Homophone: drinks = “Teas”

 

4. Government official gets a rise (slightly less than fifty percent) (4)

TSAR

GETS A RISE with more than half the letters removed

 

5. Excellent knockout I’d welcomed in self defence (6)

AIKIDO

Excellent [A1] knockout [KO] I’d welcomed in [ID placed inside]

 

7. Soldiers knocked over – that’s horrible part of course (5)

ROUGH

Soldiers [OR] knocked over [backwards] – that’s horrible [UGH]

 

9. Cause to love early Corrie legend (special one)? Not half! (7)

ENAMOUR

Early Corrie legend [ENA] (special one)? Not half [MOURINHO]

My online sources helpfully pointed me in the direction of football manager Jose Mourinho

 

13. Hard for regulars to make trouble (3)

ADO

Even numbered letters [regulars] in HARD FOR

 

14. Child is a girl (5)

ISSUE

Is [IS] a girl [SUE]

 

16. Green upset with article for Indian? Could be (5)

OCEAN

Green [ECO] upset [backwards] with article [AN]

 

17. Time con spent in Latin America’s not very much (7)

CENTIMO

Anag [“spent”] of TIME CON
Smallest denomination of several countries in Latin America

 

19. I returned dirty look Liberal ignored (3)

EGO

Returned [backwards] dirty look [OGLE] liberal ignored [remove L]

 

21. Hammer old car (6)

BEETLE

Double definition. VW Beetle and a mallet with a long handle

 

23. Sinister country Spain on reflection (5)

EERIE

Country [EIRE] Spain [E] on reflection [backwards]

 

24. Don’t believe what was said before but uncertain (5)

DOUBT

What was said [DO] before but uncertain [anag BUT]

 

26. Exploits non-British carriers (4)

USES

Buses

 

27. Private Eye has nothing about singer (4)

PIAF

Private Eye [PI = Private Investigator] has nothing about [AF = FA backwards]
Just in case it wasn’t clear, in this clue FA stands for F**k All!

 

28. Over in Florida was this often dried up? (4)

WADI

Backwards [over in] hidden word: Florida was

32 comments on “Independent No: 11,757 by Tyrus”

  1. KVa

    SNOOKER (my take)
    SR around NOOKy less y (yes/agreement)
    ENAMOUR
    special one=paraMOUR (not half)
    SURVIVAL
    take=R
    OCEAN
    Def: Indian? could be (I think it is inadvertently omitted)

  2. Arossignol

    SURVIVAL: R (take, “recipe”; medical abbreviation) in SUV (car outside) followed by LAVI reversed

  3. Arossignol

    I don’t think I’ve ever finished a grid with so many unparsed. I didn’t see SURVIVAL before coming here, and didn’t know Ena Sharples, Bill and Coo, or Mourinho’s nickname. Thanks Leedsclimber for the blog and Tyrus for a tough puzzle.

    I completely agree with your comments on the inclusion of coolie as an answer.

  4. KVa

    SNOOKER
    Apologies to leedsclimber. Your observations are correct. NOOKEY or SER?
    We may be missing something.

  5. KVa

    SNOOKER
    NOOKiE is another spelling I see.
    Aye, say=I, NOOKiE without I=NOOKE. This looks plausible?

  6. Hovis

    Haven’t seen the R for ‘take’ in quite a while but didn’t cause any issue. I went for NOOKIE without I (homophone (say) of “aye” for agreement).
    I see you just beat me KVa. Great minds think alike …

  7. KVa

    Hovis@6
    🙂
    ENAMOUR
    Looks like the setter had MOURinho (not paraMOUR) in mind as Leedsclimber says.
    I went for ‘paraMOUR’ without knowing this nickname of Jose MOURinho.
    SNOOKER
    I hadn’t parsed it properly as I had overlooked the E. Only after reading the blog
    the second time, I realised my error.

  8. Sofamore

    Great puzzle. Couldn’t parse the DO in DOUBT and I still don’t get it. Had paramour rather than Jose but that’s clear now. Also had ‘i’ for aye in SNOOKER which I liked. Lots to like including PIAF but I have AUSTIN and SURVIVAL (LOI) as tops both the car and the ‘r’ for take indicating a setter of experience and years? Austin Powers? Thanks for the blog LC and thanks Tyrus.

  9. Jayjay

    No one’s mentioned the Nina, so I will. A very enjoyable tussle, thanks, Tyrus and Leedsclimber

  10. PostMark

    Sofamore @8: The DO in DOUBT is ‘do’ = ditto = what was said before.

    I parsed SNOOKER with NOOK(i)E losing the homophone ‘I’. However, I did not recognise the def: I NEVER remember the snooker player.

    I found this typically tough but did manage to work my way through everything bar POTOROO and THIAMIN which I was nowhere near parsing. Leedsclimber, I think the parse for the former is In (container) motion = POO panicking (anagram) TOO R – PO TORO O. Otherwise it would be an indirect anagram which I don’t think Vlad would do.

    My only raised eyebrow was ‘make’ in AUSTIN which felt as if it should be ‘makes’. CHOOSE, BRAND NEW and CENTIMO were my favourites.

    Thanks Tyrus and Leedsclimber

  11. Sofamore

    Thanks PM@10.

  12. Sofamore

    And Tyrus is Vlad. I see.

  13. Herb

    I liked the Nina, which was helpful towards the end, but can anyone explain its second half?

    Tyrus is still producing genuine challenges in this format, which is much appreciated now so many top-level setters have gone. One tricky anagrind that I thought might be a step too far was “spent” (17d).

    I did find Coolie a bit depressing, although Tyrus had obviously done his best to neutralise it with the objective, technical definition. “Collie” would have fitted without damaging the Nina.

  14. PostMark

    Herb @13: it meant/means nothing to me but a quick Google search reveals a conspiracy theory that the singer is, indeed, an undercover CIA agent!

  15. Ericw

    That was hard. Never yet spotted r for take and I guess I never will!
    I agree with our blogger’s comment about 29a.

  16. FrankieG

    For 18a V(EN)EER – the definition is “front”.
    29a COOLIE – oed.com has ‘1854 Jenny and Jessamy..billing and cooing in an arbour. W. M. Thackeray, Newcomes vol. I. xxx. 295′
    Noticing the Nina helped with my L2i – 11a SU(R)V+(I+VAL)< & 15a P((OTO*)+R)OO – only the TOO needs anagramming.
    Thanks T&L

  17. KVa

    COOLIE and WADI
    Two Hindi/Urdu words today.
    COOLIE came from the name of a tribe KULI who worked as coolies
    during the Raj. Tho many people of other tribes and sects became
    coolies later, the name stuck.
    WADI means valley in Hindi/Urdu.

  18. Amoeba

    That was a tough solve, and I was grateful to the Nina for helping me over the line. Still had to guess a little at RITENUTO, although for once my guess was successful.

    I did spot AUSTIN POWERS and (George) SMILEY in the grid, who are of course secret agents, but not a clue whether that’s just coincidence or not. Nothing Tay Tay related as far as I could see.

    I did wonder about COOLIE, but thankfully it’s so old-fashioned that I wasn’t quite certain of any negative connotations. Having read the blog & comments above I agree it would’ve been much better avoided.

    Thanks Tyrus & leedsclimber.

  19. Hovis

    Although I spotted the nina, which helped a little, I didn’t see the AUSTIN POWERS & SMILEY, so thanks for that Amoeba. I doubt it’s a coincidence.

  20. TFO

    Thanks both. Found this quite tough in places, and spotting the Nina in context with AUSTIN POWERS helped – I will enlighten my daughter on the conspiracy theory as she was at the Taylor Swift concert in Liverpool yesterday. POTOROO was the only one to hold out, until I used a word-search, and I can confidently say I would not have solved it unaided if time were limitless.

  21. Matthew Newell

    Really needed the blog today. Filled in the grid – eventually – but lots of missing parsings. Will now go back and look for Nina. A real challenge that I am glad fell on a weekend to give me time to chew it out

    Thanks Tyrus and leedsclimber

  22. Tyrus

    Thanks to Leedsclimber for the blog and to others who commented. Apologies for any offence caused by 29ac which was entirely inadvertent.😒

    Yes, as some have identified, SNOOKER was Sr round nookie less i (hom of aye).

    Never quite understood this conspiracy theory. At least you knew where you were with Marjorie Taylor Greene and the forest fires caused by Jewish space lasers.

    BTW, there’s another secret agent in the grid, probably the most famous one of all.

  23. Simon S

    Thanks Tyrus and Leedsclimber

    Also, if you concatenate 17 & 18, AUSTIN SEVEN appears in the grid.

    And 3 24 reads TEASED OU(b)T.

  24. Tyrus

    Hi Simon. The SEVEN bit is right.

  25. Xmac

    Of course
    chOO SEVENeer. Hidden in plain sight
    Thanks Tyrus and LC

  26. Dormouse

    Never mind not being able to parse the answers, this was one of those days where I couldn’t even get most the answers. Not fun for me.

  27. Alliacol

    Enjoyed this – got the Nina but not the agents. Also failed on 29A having written in COALIE (a word I’d never heard of, but no surprise there, and thinking COA meant chart of accounts (vaguely associated with a bill, I thought)). I’m actually quite pleased that I didn’t get this clue right. Fantastic puzzle as always from Tyrus and congratulations to Leedsclimber for what must have been a tricky blog.

  28. Ian SW3

    Late to the game, but my two cents are that bill and coo is a well known phrase without needing any reference to that (unknown) film, and I am unfamiliar with any racial connotation of COOLIE. I had no problem with “unskilled worker.” Your objection seems a bit over sensitive, rather like those who have invented the pleonastic “enslaved persons.”

  29. Leedsclimber

    @iansw3

    It was more a desire to encourage an understanding of using words that come from a historical culture of white privilege, colonialism and the ownership of people. In the communities they were used against they still possess the power to hurt. I choose to do better.

  30. Ian SW3

    I understand, but I feel it’s too easy for some to blame the words instead of the people who use them and the ways they do. Racists and colonialists can and do just find other words to use pejoratively. Often, the fault is not the words but in those who use them.

  31. Amoeba

    Ian SW3 – the usual sources (Chambers & Collins) note its usage as offensive. I don’t think anyone today would ever use the term, and rightly so. I agree with you about bill & coo being enough to justify the ‘coo’.

  32. Amoeba

    Ian SW3 – the usual sources (Chambers & Collins) note its usage as offensive. I don’t think anyone today would ever use the term, and rightly so. I agree with you about bill & coo being enough to justify the ‘coo’, but don’t think you can sensibly defend the word itself.

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