Independent on Sunday 1,835 by Filbert

Some really deft cluing here, with the smoothest of surfaces and some cunningly disguised definitions.

I particularly enjoyed OVEREXACT, TERMINOLOGICAL, OBSCENITY, THRONE ROOM and PRESIDENT.

The neighing chanteuse also raised a mirthful whinny, as did the latrines having to be rearranged to accommodate volume – somehow appropriate to the world we find ourselves in these days. Many thanks to Filbert for a most enjoyable Sunday morning workout.

MOH’s completely subjective and therefore meaningless scale of hardness rating: Apatite

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
1 PALACE
Old man put something intoxicating in magnificent joint (6)
PA (old man) + LACE (put something intoxicating in, eg a drink)
4 FLESH OUT
Elaborate on principle of vegetarianism? (5,3)
Double definition
10 INTERVALS
Spaces between latrines changed to accommodate volume (9)
Anag (changed) of LATRINES and V. [As FrankieG rightly points out, strictly speaking the anagrind only applies to LATRINES, which is around (accommodates) V]
11 SHEAR
Take fleece off husband wearing brand (5)
Insertion (wearing) of H into SEAR
12 DISINFORMATION
Intentionally false leads detective inspectors lined up? (14)
Charade of DIS + In FORMATION
14 OVEREXACT
Too nice to dismiss minister, on reflection, during October (9)
Reversal (on reflection) of AXE REV inside (during) OCT
16 PAGER
On break, flipping thing calling you back to work (5)
Reversal (flipping) of RE (on, concerning) + GAP
17 GENUS
Biologist’s type of knee (5)
Genu is the Latin/medical term for a knee, so GENU’S could signify “of knee”
19 DESPERADO
Outlaw maybe does bother to carry unloaded pistols around (9)
DEER (those kinds of does) +ADO (bother) around a reversal (around) of the outer letters of PistolS (unloaded)
21 TERMINOLOGICAL
Jargony long article IMO needs editing (14)
Anag (needs editing) of LONG ARTICLE IMO
25 EPOCH
Big date, record ejaculation from Scot (5)
EP (record) + OCH (ejaculation from Scot)
26 OBSCENITY
Dirt spread by insect on doughnut (9)
Anag (spread) of BY INSECT and O. It’s an interesting truth that all doughnuts in crosswordland are O-shaped. Never any jam in them. [Again, as pointed out by FrankieG, the anagrind applies only to BY INSECT, which is then put “on” the O/doughnut, which has to come first in the solution]
27 SIKORSKY
Helicopter Republican agreed is turning blue (8)
Reversal (turning) of R + OK + IS followed by SKY, for the US helicopter manufacturer
28 AT HAND
Coming soon from Jonathan Demme … (2,4)
Hidden in JonATHAN Demme
DOWN
1 PAIR
Feeling under pressure to get ducks in a row (4)
P followed by (under, in a down clue) AIR. The definition refers to a cricketer who is out for a duck in both innings of a match, who is said to have got a pair
2 LATTICE
A bit of Latin, Greek and English in grid (7)
Charade of L + ATTIC + E
3 CURVINESS
Being round climbers with fruit, dog on sierra gets to eat (9)
Insertion (gets to eat) of VINES (climbers with fruit) into CUR + S
5 LAST RITES
Comfort on the way out, girl boxes stock (4,5)
Insertion (boxes) of TRITE (cliched, as in a stock character) into LASS
6 SASHA
Alexander, band leader in alley? (5)
Charade of SASH (band) + A (first letter of alley)
7 OPENING
Opportunity to write home during journey back (7)
PEN + IN inside a reversal (back) of GO
8 THRONE ROOM
Cast heard Othello upset audience there for Lear? (6,4)
Homophone of “thrown” (cast) + reversal (upset) of MOOR
9 WAIF
Very thin person beginning to ask whether to put weight on (4)
A (beginning to ask) + IF (whether) under W
13 SONGSTRESS
Really worry about case of neighing chanteuse (10)
SO + STRESS around (about) outer letters (case of) NeighinG
15 AUDIOBOOK
Unreadable novel? (9)
Cryptic definition. Which, by definition, is inaccurate as audiobooks are indeed read by the reader. But OK, we’ll stretch a point and say that the listener can’t read an audiobook
16 PRESIDENT
Macron’s ready with team name in his office (9)
PRET (French for ready, so “Macron’s ready”) around SIDE + N
18 NORFOLK
Broad area of new floor sunken in the middle (7)
Anag (new) of FLOOR and the central letters (in the middle) of suNKen to give the UK county that is home to the Broads
20 ARABICA
Painter and writer introduced to people who try not to drink coffee (7)
Insertion (introduced to) of RA + BIC (French brand of disposable ballpoint pens) into AA (Alcoholics Anonymous, not the motorist’s roadside assistance organisation)
22 ICHOR
Which organ is filled with Zeus’s blood? (5)
Hidden in whICH ORgan, for the substance that ran through the veins of Olympian gods
23 OUST
Get rid of square unfashionable clothes (4)
Insertion (clothes) of S into OUT
24 DYED
You might say faded, not really blonde? (4)
Homophone (You might say) of “died”

21 comments on “Independent on Sunday 1,835 by Filbert”

  1. My geo ken is scanty, but I’m guessing apatite isn’t all that hard, although terminological and audiobook did take a while to work out. (I’m too lazy to do long anagrams on paper and not too good at doing them in my head). All part of the fun, thanks Filbert and MOH.

  2. {Earworm: A favourite 13d, Karen Carpenter, appearing to do 19a “Acapulco”, [as Ernie Wise might have put it, in one of those plays what he wrote]}

  3. My faves: FLESH OUT, DISINFORMATION, SONGSTRESS, PRESIDENT and CURVINESS.

    PALACE, LATTICE: The WP in Def format is official!

    Thanks Filbert and MOH.

  4. [10a: (LATRINES*) accommodating V. — 26a: O+(BY INSECT*).]
    Note that for 17a GENU is Latin for knee, and the genitive can be GENUS, so “of knee” works in Latin, too.
    18d: See also beermagnet’s joke here: “Due to an unfortunate spacing error, this year I am looking forward to a week on the Norfolk B roads.” 🙂.

  5. In case anyone else is as non-plussed as me, Sasha Alexander seems to be the stage name of some z-list actress (born of notable parents). Way over my head.
    Thanks both.

  6. Pete HA3 @7 – SASHA is a diminutive name for Alexander/Alexandra, apparently. I still had to take it on trust, but it’s not quite as bad as the actress!

  7. Thanks both. All to then usual high standard, provided we are up on our Latin, Greek….and Slavic, it appears (SASHA).

  8. Thanks FrankeG @4 – you’re right of course about the anagram parts of 10a and 26a. Blog edited accordingly

  9. I found this tougher than many recent Filberts, I sense the setter may have noted that posters were too regularly finding the puzzles “easy”. What hasn’t changed is the skill level….great surfaces, crafty wordplays, interesting definitions.
    SASHA (6d) was a bit disappointing. But then, I was very disappointing on PAGER and LATTICE, where I fluffed the parsing.
    ARABICA (20d) was the best clue, for me, from a gridful of really good stuff.
    Thanks, Fil & MOH

  10. Thanks Amoeba@8.
    Now I’ll have to learn all possible diminutive names. And I haven’t finished memorising every single author, poet, fish and Scottish island yet.

  11. As it happens, I had heard of SASHA Alexander, although the name didn’t ring a bell until seeing Pete HA3’s comment. I had seen some episodes of the US cop show Rizzoli and Isles, in which she played Isles. But her parents don’t appear to have been notable. (Alas, the series was notable for one of the cast committing suicide mid-series.)

  12. I really enjoyed Filbert’s puzzle in the Times on Friday (outed on Cracking the Cryptic) so thought I would give this a go. I think I found this tougher than others but apart from an erroneous PAID instead of PAIR I got through it without aids. I think it’s a sign of a good setter when you can get the ones you’ve not heard of with reasonable confidence.

    Filbert is fast becoming one of my favourite setters. So many great surfaces so hard to pick a favourite but today’s winners are FLESH OUT and NORFOLK

    Thanks MOH and Filbert

  13. Thanks Filbert for a Sunday treat. I missed PAIR (cricket’s not my thing) as well as ARABICA with its odd surface. I loved the rest particularly INTERVALS, OPENING, THRONE ROOM, PRESIDENT, and OUST. Thanks MOH for the explanations.

  14. Dormouse@15, quite right. I got bored with her bio so I didn’t read it properly. Famous parents-in-law.
    Pete.

  15. I knew SASHA from tennis player Alexander (Sascha) Zverev, a perennial fixture in the top ten over the last several years who has had terrible luck in major finals. Current world #2, I want to say? Anyway, if you read Russian novels, you have to get used to the nicknames. Sometimes characters are referred to by just the first name, sometimes just the last, sometimes by first name plus patronymic/matronymic, and sometimes by the diminutive form of their first name, all depending on who’s talking to them. So a guy named Alexander Ivanovich Vronsky might be called Vronsky, Alexander Ivanovich, Alexander, or Sasha. It took me about 300 pages of War and Peace before I really caught on.

    I didn’t know the helicopter, so I cheated on that one.

  16. I know it’s a bit (!)late, but Irving Berlin wrote “Alexander’s ragtime band”, which was a Tin Pan Alley hit. So that makes it rather a good clue IMHO

  17. Yes, of course, that’s a very good point, Dreadnought @20 – the Alexander’s Ragtime Band/Tin Pan Alley reference went right over my head!

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