Guardian Cryptic crossword No 29,925 by Anto

The puzzle may be found at https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/cryptic/29925.

My aplolgies for the late posting, which seems to be the main topic of the Guardian comments. Anto mostly in good form, but let down, I think, by 20A WHATNOT.

ACROSS
1 PIECES OF EIGHT
2/6 in old money? (6,2,5)
2 + 6 = 8.
10 LEAVING DO
It celebrates departure of an evil god destroyed (7,2)
An anagram (‘destroyed’) of ‘an evil god’.
11 TAP-IN
On occasions, tramp didn’t get an easy score (3-2)
Alternate letters (‘on occasions’) of ‘TrAmP dIdNt’.
12 INDIA
Country information I included in confidentiality contract (5)
A charade of I (‘information’) plus NDIA, an envelope (‘included in’) of ‘I’ in NDA (non-disclosure agreement, ‘confidentiality contract’)
13 SHAKEDOWN
Attempt at extortion that will ruffle feathers? (9)
A charade of SHAKE (‘ruffle’) plus DOWN (‘feathers’ close enough).
14 GRECIAN
Such characters provide the beginnings of Picasso’s nuanced mural? (7)
PI, NU and MU (‘the beginnings of PIcasso NUanced MUral’) are all Greek characters.
16 EARPLUG
Change page URL – it helps filter out rackets (7)
An anagram (‘change’) of ‘page URL’.
18 OBSCENE
Fuss by former pupil is disgusting (7)
A charade of OB (Old Boy, ‘former pupil’) plus (‘by’) SCENE (‘fuss’).
20 WHATNOT
Display stand for similar types of things (7)
I can only dismiss this as a weak cryptic definition. It hardly counts as a double definition: a WHATNOT is a miscellaneous item, or a stand for displaying them, but the two meanings are intimately related, and the second part of the clue , ‘similar types of things’ would seem to require a plural. Not, I feel, Anto’s happiest clue.
21 TOBLERONE
Ferment noble rot and add energy for something sweet (9)
An anagram (‘ferment’) of ‘noble rot’, for the chocolate brand. The surface refers to wines: ‘noble rot’, Botrytis cinerea (pourriture noble or edelfäule) is a mould which renders grapeskins porous, and the juice thus more concentrated, so that its sweetness may be used to make wines such as Chateau d’Yquem and other sweet Sauternes, and German sweet wines culminating in trockenbeerenauslese.
23 MOTET
Composition of famous auteur writing from the heart (5)
Middle letters (‘from the heart’) of ‘faMOus auTEur wriTing’.
24 MAMBA
Degrees to which this creature is venomous? (5)
MA and MBA are academic ‘degrees’.
25 ITERATION
Short article helping to create another version (9)
A charade of ITE[m] (‘article’) minus its last letter (‘short’) plus RATION (‘helping’).
26 CENTRE FORWARD
Footballer to send on after midpoint (6,7)
A charade of CENTRE (‘midpoint’) plus FORWARD (‘send on’).
DOWN
2 IP ADDRESS
Tablet cover shows internet identification (2,7)
A charade of IPAD (‘Apple ‘tablet’) plus DRESS (‘cover’).
3 CHINA
Check in with a friend (5)
A charade of CH (‘check’, chess) plus ‘in’ plus (‘with’) ‘a’.
4 SIGNS ON
Indication family member is unemployed (5,2)
A charade of SIGN (‘indication’) plus SON (‘family member’). To sign on could be to start a new job, but here is intended to indicate applying for unemployment benefits.
5 FOOTAGE
Settle for period film (7)
A charade of FOOT (‘settle’ a bill) plus AGE (‘period’).
6 IN THE AREA
At home, try partaking in drink that’s close by (2,3,4)
A charade of IN (‘at home’) plus THEAREA, an envelope (‘in’) of HEAR (‘try’ judicially) in TEA (‘drink’).
7 HIPPO
One wallowing in directorship position (5)
A hidden answer ‘in’ ‘directorsHIP POsition’.
8 ALL IN GOOD TIME
Eventually exhausted having fun (3,2,4,4)
A charade of ALL IN (‘exhausted’) plus (‘having’) GOOD TIME (‘fun’).
9 ONE NIGHT STAND
Individual bedroom fitting you may be embarrassed about (3,5,5)
A charade of ONE (‘individual’) plus NIGHTSTAND (‘bedroom fixture’, a bedside table or cabinet).
15 INELEGANT
Popular English stage worker is a bit ungainly (9)
A charade of IN (‘popular’) plus E (‘English’) plus LEG (‘stage’) plus ANT (‘worker’).
17 LENGTHIER
Ringlet he adjusted making it more extended (9)
An anagram (‘adjusted’) of ‘ringlet he’.
19 EROSIVE
Desire setter has is damaging (7)
A charade of EROS (‘desire’) plus I’VE (‘setter has’).
20 WHERE TO
In attendance, contributing to WTO that’s questioning direction of travel (5,2)
An envelope (‘contributing to’) of HERE (‘in attendance’) in ‘WTO’.
22 BOMBE
Stink over honour – it may come as a surprise? (5)
A charade of BO (body odour, ‘stink’) plus (‘over’ – not an envelope indicator, but a suitable usage in a down light) MBE (‘honour’). A BOMBE is a dessert, generally of ice cream, in a (hemi)spherical mould, and thus likened to a cannonball. It may well contain an unexpected filling.
23 MIAOW
Queen’s speech perhaps initially made its appearance on wireless (5)
First letters (‘initially’) of ‘Made Its Appearance On Wireless’. THe ‘queen’ is a cat.

 picture of the completed grid

32 comments on “Guardian Cryptic crossword No 29,925 by Anto”

  1. michelle

    Quite tough.

    I solved/guessed couldn’t parse 1ac, 14ac.

  2. Ace

    In 23A, I don’t understand why the queen is a cat?

  3. Jack Of Few Trades

    For 1ac to work you have to read “2/6” as “two and six” which was a common spoken shorthand for “two shillings and sixpence” but a bit of an extra step. Could be a challenge for overseas or younger solvers. I missed the parsing of 14ac as well, so thanks for that, and was pleased I had not missed anything clever in “whatnot”.

    thanks Anto and PeterO

  4. polyphone

    Ace@2 A queen is an unspayed female cat.

  5. Jack Of Few Trades

    Ace@2: A tom is a male cat, a queen a female (though some will argue that it should only be used for a breeding i.e. unspayed cat). A not uncommon crossword trick so worth remembering.

    [crossed with polyphone]

  6. muffin

    Thanks Anto and PeterO
    Thanks for the parsing of GRECIAN – I had no idea.
    I thought 2/6 in old money was an eighth of a pound, but was confused that the pound wasn’t indicated, and how that then related to “pieces”.
    Also didn’t see how “similar types of things” contributed to WHATNOT. I suppose it is also used for “thingummy” etc.
    Favourites the nice hidden for HIPPO, and MOTET.

  7. Dave Ellison

    Ace@2 An unspayed female cat is known as a queen

  8. Lord Jim

    I really enjoyed this and thought it was rather more challenging than usual for a Monday. I couldn’t parse GRECIAN (I was just looking at the very beginnings ie P, N and U) but in retrospect it’s good. My favourites were PIECES OF EIGHT and LEAVING DO, great surfaces for both.

    I think WHATNOT is fine as a double definition — firstly a piece of furniture for displaying items, and secondly “similar types of things” as in “x, y, and whatnot”.

    Many thanks Anto and PeterO.

  9. Tyngewick

    Thanks both,
    I think ‘Whatnot’ can be a plural noun meaning etcetera as in ‘ornaments and whatnot’.

  10. Auriga

    WHATNOT can imply a plural: “I left my tools and whatnot at work,” meaning my tools and similar things.

  11. Tomsdad

    I was led astray by 14 as it’s nearly an anagram of ‘Guernica’, so missed the actual and more subtle parsing. No doubt the misdirection was intended, so kudos to Anto. Otherwise a good Monday challenge requiring some thought. Liked ‘PIECES OF EIGHT’ but agree that knowing how half a crown (the other name for two shillings and sixpence and a much-used coin) was normally written will be lost on younger and overseas solvers. Thanks to Anto and PeterO.

  12. Ravenrider

    I couldn’t parse 14ac fully, but thought it had to be connected to Picasso’s famous “mural” Guernica since it is an anagram other than one letter. Perhaps Anto was thinking that way but couldn’t make a clue they liked out of it?
    Sorry tomsdad @11, our posts crossed.

  13. Martin

    Having a branded chocolate product in 23A didn’t strike me as being how things are done around here, even if I did get it straight away. I also failed to see what would be surprising about a BOMBE outside of the clangingly politically incorrect denouement to Diamonds are Forever, which features a Bombe Surprise dessert with (spoiler alert) a bomb in it. I didn’t parse 14A, although on reflection I should have.

    I liked all the long clues around the perimeter.

    Thanks all.

  14. Tyro

    Completed with quite a few guesses from the crossers. Even as a beginner it is rare I have no idea at all how a clue works but that was the case with 14ac. Very clever – I suppose. Thanks Anton for a solvable challenge and PeterO for the clarifications.

  15. Anna

    When I was young (b.1954), older people would often refer to halfcrown as ‘half-a-dollar’. That was in south London, I don’t know if it was common elsewhere.
    There were, of course eight halfcrowns in a pound.
    I have read somewhere that the dollar sign derived from the number 8.

  16. muffin

    Martin @13
    Yes about TOBLERONE, but the name has got in to more general usage. For instance, the triangular cross-section foam pads on boundaries of cricket fields are now aften referred to as “toblerones”.

  17. Valentine

    I too thought that two and six somehow were equal to some ancient coin. I never have been able to remember what a florin is equal to.

    Otherwise, it was a nice puzzle, I enjoyed it. Thanks Anto and PeterO. Hope that all is well with you in this cold., Peter I don’t know how it’s affecting Long Island — here in Connecticut it’s pretty brutal, the coldest winter I can recall in years.

  18. Martin

    Oops! 21A not 23A. While I’m back, I had the same Guernica thoughts as Tomsdad and Ravenrider.

    Yes indeed, Muffin @16, that’s a fair point. I couldn’t find them in any dictionaries, but I guess that may happen soon.

  19. staticman1

    I must have been on wavelength as it went in smoothly.

    Liked the quirky GRECIAN and PIECES OF EIGHT.

    I am another one who is fine with WHATNOT for reasons given @#8

    Thanks PeterO and Anto

  20. gladys

    Saying 2/6 as two-and-six (half a crown, but that doesn’t fit) comes so automatically to somebody of my age that you don’t remember that for younger people the past is another country where British money is concerned. But two and six as PIECES OF EIGHT is a splendid, if dated, clue.

    Much being made in the Guardian comments about GRECIAN being non-Ximenean – can anyone explain why? Took me a long time, and I was looking for Guernica too, but it doesn’t seem unfair.

    I liked the racket-filter and the queen’s speech. Isn’t there actually a French dessert called a bombe surprise?

  21. DerekTheSheep

    Thanks PeterO for the parsing of GRECIAN: I looked at it from various directions, and like Lord Jim @8 and Ravenrider@12, thought it must be something to do with Guernica, but couldn’t quite close the deal. Several other parsings were also cleared up by the blog (IN THE AREA, for one).
    I was made to chortle by ONE NIGHT STAND; well, those were the days, eh? I wasn’t troubled by WHATNOT; in fact, like Lord Jim @8 (again!, we must form a club…), I thought it quite clever.
    A pleasant-enough occupation over breakfast: thanks, Anton.

  22. ronald

    Good Monday fare, except that I couldn’t parse GRECIAN or MOTET, which I see thanks to PeterO used pretty much the same device. Last one in today was IP ADDRESS. But HIPPO did make me smile, huge but hidden, or trying to remain concealed…

  23. muffin

    The wallowing hippo of course reminds me of this.

  24. DerekTheSheep

    me@21 “Anto”! … and I can’t even blame autocorrect, as I’m on a PC.

  25. Steppie

    More ‘midweek’ than Monday fare for me, took a while to get going. Thanks to Anto, and to PeterO (no apology called for – a volunteer’s prerogative, surely!)

  26. Layman

    Gladys #20 – I’m pretty sure that they referred to this being an (incorrect) indirect anagram (“nuanced”) of GUERNICA. I must admit I thought so, too, remembering that Anto has a history of misspelling cultural references – sorry Anto 🙁 Looks like it was a clever misdirection on his part playing around the above; I for one fell for it…

    I enjoyed the puzzle (now, all of it) and liked the witty wordplay in a lot of clues. On WHATNOT, I fully agree with Lord Jim #8. Thanks Anto for the fun and PeterO for the explanations!

  27. Sen

    Felt this was slightly too hard for a Monday cryptic, but not impossible. The Picasso clue is brilliant.

    Was going to say that the China seemed completely baffling to me, but from googling it seems like it’s related to cockney rhyming slang (China plate = mate). Another one along with pieces of eight that I imagine people outside the UK might struggle with parsing.

  28. Tony Santucci

    Thanks Anto for an enjoyable crossword. My top picks were SHAKEDOWN, MAMBA, IP ADDRESS, CHINA, ALL IN GOOD TIME, and MIAOW. I couldn’t fully parse GRECIAN and WHATNOT and I couldn’t figure out what the word ‘for’ was doing in FOOTAGE but none of this ruined the fun. Thanks PeterO for the blog.

  29. judygs

    Many thanks to Anto, and to PeterO for the blog, in particular for explaining 14A – like many I was led down the Guernica-anagram-minus U path, surely deliberate and very clever on the part of the setter. And I even reached PNM but failed to add the vowels …

  30. Crossbar

    [Thank you muffin@23. Pity that version is missing the verse with my favourite rhyme ever – inamorata & garter 🙂 ]


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  32. Andy in Durham

    PIECES OF EIGHT has absolutely nothing to do with pre-decimal British currency. It was the anglicised pronunciation of the Spanish silver dollar (peso duro) which was widely used for international trade from the 16th century onwards, and has been described as the first global currency. It was widely used by pirates in the Caribbean and often appears in literature/films describing that period. The parrot in Treasure Island had a habit of endlessly repeating ‘pieces of eight, pieces of eight’.

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