Independent 10483 / Radian

18 comments on “Independent 10483 / Radian”

1. Thanks for parsing TITIAN, Duncan. That one passed me by.
   In 6d, I felt urge=pressure worked better as verbs.

   Thanks to Radian and Duncan.

2. Thanks for the blog, Duncan – thorough and informative as always.

   This one took a bit of teasing out – painters wouldn’t be my chosen specialist subject, although in fairness to Radian they are all pretty well known.  I did parse TITIAN, but only at the very last moment, and I too liked the anagram for Mr Da Vinci.

   I did not help myself by carelessly slapping in HOTCHPOTCH for 5dn, which is an alternative spelling but of course not indicated by the wordplay.  Will write usual memo to self about following the instructions when I’ve tackled the offering from this setter in today’s Grauniad.  But I won’t even be looking at the comments section for it on Fifteensquared.  Will stick to the refuge of sanity that this thread remains for my crossword fix.

   Thanks to Radian too.

3. A wonderful puzzle _ I should have  put the Muti version on for it-or just the piano-but they were different pics than this.

   A fair array of talent including the writer.

   Beautifully clued

   Thanks Duggie and duncansheil.

4. Re 15d I wondered if “stiles” clued as “gaps in walls” might cause trouble. In Yorkshire, North Yorkshire at any rate, stiles are narrow gaps in the (dry stone) walls whereas in most of England they are simple wooden constructions, usually for getting over fences. I wonder if the Yorkshire usage applies in Crucible’s native Northern Ireland too.

5. Thanks for the blog, Duncan.

   copmus sums it up neatly. Like him, I preferred this theme to the Crucible one – beautifully evocative.

   Lots of lovely clues: my favourites were HOOFROT, AMORETTO, TURGENEV, TITIAN – and STILL LIFES a: for the brilliant surface b: for the clever construction c: for the joy of writing  LIFES and d: because stiles, fascinate me – one of the pleasures of walking in different parts of the country is meeting so many different styles! I’m not quibbling about the definition: see the ‘squeeze’ stile here. I’ve encountered plenty of them in my beloved Yorkshire Dales.

   Many thanks, Radian – it was a real pleasure to solve.

   [I spent so long looking at pictures, I see Herb has beaten me to it. 😉 ]

    

6. I DNFed as stupidly wrote unparsed Still Lives!!  Especially being a keen walker!!! Titian too was unparsed as I didn’t see Dietitian.  Thanks Radian for a magnificent themed puzzle and Duncan for an excellent blog.

7. I enjoyed the theme and learning something new – the different varieties of stiles in different parts of the UK from the blog and what an AUREOLE is from the puzzle.

   Thanks for parsing TITIAN which I couldn’t get. I did wonder if it should have been ‘Regimen’ rather than ‘regime’ but see from Chambers that ‘regime’ can also be used for an eg dietary regimen, or course of treatment.

   Thanks to Radian and Duncan

8. A really enjoyable puzzle.

   Thanks to Radian and Duncan

9. Nobody has mentioned 21dn and the fact that storybooks is not the same thing as story books.. Thin end of the wedge, and all that sort of thing? But this one’s fairly mild: at least storybooks breaks naturally as story and books.

10. Wil Ransome @9 – I think I must be being dim but would you mind explaining your comment? I don’t think I’ve ever had to write it but I think I’d be happy writing either storybook or story book – perhaps with a preference for the latter, since I might think of ‘storybook’ as an adjective [as in a tale having a storybook ending [but then I might think it should have a hyphen]. All three of my dictionaries have storybook as one word.

    In any case, it’s in the wordplay and not the definition, so it’s surely irrelevant? I just don’t understand your problem. My apologies if I’m missing something obvious.

     

11. Is 21ac TYROL or TIROL?  Both spellings seem to be allowed and also tiro ad tyro are alternatives.

    Having the crossing u, g and v in 6dn,  I was tempted to enter BULGAKOV but I couldn’t parse.

    I couldn’t parse 15dn, but that’s because I spelled it STILL LIVES.  Oops.

12. Dormouse@11

    Doing a bit of research, I find that TIROL is the local spelling, but it is anglicised to TYROL when all the names of all the states are anglicised.

    Looking at the dictionaries, all of Collins, Chambers and OED indicate both TYRO and TIRO for novice / beginner.  Chambers leads with TIRO.  Collins and OED lead with TYRO.  I’ve been led to believe that Collins is the authority for Independent crosswords, so I would go with TYROL. In any event, the Independent website gives TYROL as the entry.

13. I filled in TIROL without even thinking about it.  (I had a printed out grid.)  I thought that was the normal spelling.  Not sure  was even fully aware of the other spelling.

14. Eileen @10, I think that Wil Ransome means that ‘storybook’ needs splitting before it becomes ‘tale/nt’.  In his eyes it is probably not Ximenean (enough).

    Sort of ‘lift & separate’ which, indeed, is not standard stuff for The Independent.

    As someone who does The Guardian crossword every day of the week, you will be used to a lot of things that are even worse for purists.

    Crossword ‘rules’ are not always like they were, say, 5-10 years ago.

    Anyway, that’s what I think Wil means (but I may be wrong, of course).

15. Sil, I took ‘storybook’ as just being a simple lift-and-separate.  Nothing unusual, nothing rule-breaking.  Perhaps Wil meant something else.

16. I did the same but it’s not standard Independent fare.

    Agree, nothing unusual though, nothing rule-breaking either.

    But I’m not sure whether Wil meant something else.

    I still tend to believe that he wanted the split in story/books to be indicated.

17. But, of course, Wil himself could perhaps tell us what he actually meant ….

18. I think it depends where the split is.

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