Guardian Cryptic 28,335 by Tramp

82 comments on “Guardian Cryptic 28,335 by Tramp”

1. I really enjoyed this – by no means a pushover, but plenty of tremendous clues, e.g. GREASY SPOON, HOROLOGIST and STRETTO (LOI for me). Many thanks to Tramp and manehi.

2. My pitiful grasp of Latin meant I failed to finish this without cheating. And the use of keep to mean both stet and fort threw me. I thought a keep was a tower in a castle.

3. Thanks Tramp and manehi
   Several not fully parsed for me. I took OPEN FIRE as the instruction to shoot, so without the “topless” it would have been a DD. EA for “running water” was new to me.
   FLESHPOT was brilliant, as the top shelf is where the newsagent puts the magazines that display busts.

4. Oh dear.

5. Defeated by STRETTO which is a dnk and, even with all the crossers, I didn’t know what I was looking for and stet never occurred. Everything else solved eventually though I didn’t find it easy. But then, I’d probably complain if I did.

   Thank Goodness for Harry = destroy: SPECTATOR was FOI after the first pass revealed nothing at all. Then the anagram revealed PHYSIOTHERAPY and it was a steady if slow progress thereafter. Ticks for HILLIER, GOLDEN PARACHUTE, EXTRAPOLATE, A FORTIORI and COPPERHEAD once I’d remembered the meaning of busy. I also enjoyed SCORPIO: I’m getting used to the my=cor equation and fully expect myself to be saying one or the other out loud one of these days which will be embarrassing.

   I’m not sure the surfaces today are as uniformly smooth as I would expect of Tramp – I see I’ve gone out of my way to praise them in the past. And Tramp is sticking to his guns when it comes to clues that might be interpreted as smutty in some way. I am assuming any such interpretations are firmly in my own mind and apologise to myself for seeing them thus.

   Thanks Tramp and manehi

6. A toughie, with the odd wrong turn. I parsed “EA” in 10a as “Environment Agency” – the government department that “runs water” in the UK.
   Many thanks to Tramp for the challenging puzzle and manehi for clearing up some details!

7. Thanks to Tramp and Manehi
   Re 8a This is the title of a 2003 film (USA) and a 2015 one (India). (Thank IMDB)

8. Another let down by the lack of Latin – we didn’t do much in Saurfend in the 1970s…

   STRETTO has two meanings in music – the “quickening up at the end” is the most uncommon usage and that floored me. It usually refers to the device in Fugues (especially Bach) where the subject is introduced early giving the feeling of a quickening of the tempo.

   One of the best examples of this is the Fugue of BWV 874 (Book 2, number 5 in D Major) where there are six stretti, portions where the Fugue subject is introduced in a different voice earlier than it “should” be. BWV874/2 is also a total bu*ger to play because of this but Andras Schiff does it with ease (the Prelude is nothing to write home about… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJZ_DHdG27Q) The air is often blue in the MaidenBartok household when this one is bashed out on the joanna.

   COTD GOLDEN PARACHUTE – fat chance…

   Slow solve with quite a bit of help needed but a fun mental workout.

   Thanks Tramp and manehi!

9. The only reference I could find to “Ea”, was as one of the three Babylonian gods of the sky, earth and water, his speciality being water. So, similar to canthusus @6, I went for the ‘in charge of/running’ water explanation.
   Thanks Tramp and manehi for the enjoyment. Good stuff!

10. I was looking gor a theme, but could only find a pox topic.

    Thanks to Tramp and Manehi

11. Well there’s never an end to what you don’t know…ea for river (archaic), hands up who knew. Remembered eft for newt though, reinforced recently. Slick surface for 12ac froze. 16ac would’ve been better as ‘one does’… editor..? Needed help to construct stretto from the w’play, dnk it as a coda (only, in the other gender, in a very obscene Italian saying, beginning ‘Aqua fresca..’). The physios I know might be miffy about ‘massaging’. And I’ve got the Calendar Girls dvd..nice bit of fluff, but obvs not cutting deep in the grey matter, guessed ‘Girls’ but still went “What the..”, d’oh. Enjoyable romp, thanks both.

12. Chambers has EA meaning “running water”.

13. Penfold@10: I also noticed ‘pox topic’ but I think it would be more than a stretch to link it to the ‘smutty clues’! I thought this was a fabulous offering and even managed to work out A FORTIORI, having failed Latin O’ Level dismally in the 70s, MaidenBartok. EA and STRETTO were new and muffin@3, I concur with your comment on FLESHPOT. That along with HOROLOGIST were my faves. Ta to Tramp & manehi.

14. The Indian beer baron Vijay Mallya’s company used to bring out a Kingfisher CALENDAR with scantily clad GIRLS.

15. [AlanC @13: I was three year groups out from compulsory Latin “O” Level and that is probably Latin’s gain. I did do French and Russian but neither were spectacular…]

    I meant to mention FLESHPOT before – what a fab clue!

16. Winkled out STRETTO and therefore COPPERHEAD finally. Lots of nice anagrams. Liked CALENDAR GIRLS which I suppose goes with the clue for 16ac, though not quite as suggestive, rather more coy, in fact. Enjoyable solve throughout….

17. I was mildly rebuked by an esteemed blogger the other day for referring to another setter’s “nonsensical surfaces”. Well, this puzzle gives me the opportunity to throw into focus the opposite end of the spectrum.

    Beautiful surfaces throughout combined with clever misdirects. OOPS was my favourite today.

    Don’t want to be smug, but EA is an absolute must for Scrabble fiends trying to tie 2 words together side by side.

    Rather thought the OPEN FIRE clue might nave been improved by the omission of “topless”, but I can see why it was included.

    Not wild about “grand” = “pretty” but I suppose it’s close enough for crozzies.

    Many thanks, both, for a fine puzzle and an equally fine blog.

18. MaidenBartok @8: Shouldn’t that be Sarfend?

19. …forgot to add that the Bach link was fab – thank you. While on your YouTube link, and seeing you reference to “bashing it out on the joanna”, I bumped into this astonishing young lady. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiR4Rc3kjBs

20. Thanks manehi.

    I wrote this in April 2020. I know the link word, “in”, of 12a means the “houses” should be “housing”, but I broke the rule because the surface was too good to let go. I hope you forgive me.

    Neil

21. A jolly good crossword, I thought, and an enjoyable puzzle overall. But marred for me by the EA=river. Using Chambers’s silliness in the construction of clues — rather than the English language — leads to crosswords which are targeted only to a small clique of specialists, who share an arcane code. Imagine the bad feeling amongst friends and families at a pub quiz which, for some of the questions, used only Chambers entries and definitions. I have the same feeling about the use of Chambers for Scrabble. I think that if you win with EA then it’s not because you’re good at Scrabble, it’s because you can exploit a loophole in the rules to get away with placing words that are not really words. Chambers wins because they have a commercial advantage in this specialist area. Oxford and Collins make proper reference dictionaries, based on editorial principles driven by best practice and research into language usage.

22. Superb puzzle, thoroughly enjoyed working through the wordplay. But I was slow, slow, slow ! Thank heavens that some of the longer clues were easy.

    RE the Latin. I don’t think you need to have studied the language for these legal Latin clues. I am sure that many (most?) lawyers have no knowledge of Latin at all. Any more than you need to have studied French to know what RSVP means. And anyway, the ‘Latin’ isn’t the Classical Latin that is studied in school. Any more than cul de sac is real French. (Cul de sac actually sounds very funny to French people, but I won’t bore you with the reason why).

    Thanks to Tramp and to manehi.

23. @pserve_p2
    You seem to think that EA isn’t a real word. Not knowing an obscure word does not mean it doesn’t exist. I didn’t know it until today.

24. Great fun but I fear the virtue-signallers will be out in force. Some of the Yoda grammar was a bit out there but not to the extent that it spoiled the party. On the subject of the scouse word BUSY for COPPER, the Liverpool Echo spells it BIZZY / BIZZIES (as does Chambers)

25. Found this quite difficult and there were a few bits I didn’t know so although I worked out the answer from the description and crosses I could not parse e.g. EA = river, EFT = newt, L = LIBRA = pound weight and had not seen MY to indicate COR before. Will add them to my crossword language

    Did know that detectives were called busies but had completely forgotten

    Did not know A FORTIORI

    Favourites were PARTIAL, EXTRAPOLATE, SOBER UP, OOPS and I liked the anagrams

    Thanks to Tramp and manehi

26. With “small Latin and less Greek” I managed A FORTIORI and I knew STRETTO, but, as always with Tramp, I struggled with the parsing. FLESHPOT amused me. EA was new or long forgotten. LOI was CALENDAR GIRLS, not sure why.
    My thanks to Tramp and manehi.

27. pserve_p2 @21; well, the ‘proper’ OED has ea as a regional word for river or a body of running water. I didn’t know it but I think it’s quite legitimate for setters to use slightly obscure words that are in dictionaries.

    A slow start for me but an enjoyable solve. I wondered about the GIRLS in 8; thanks to manehi in pointing out the obvious. I liked the clues for HOROLOGIST and PHYSIOTHERAPY.

    Thanks Tramp and manehi.

28. Latin? More like legalese
    Pompeius magnis
    Hail Trampus

29. Thank you, Tramp and manehi. Enjoyable excursion up the ea. Liked COPPERHEAD and PARTIAL.

30. Did not parse ‘topless’ in 5 down, being busy = copper (14a), BEEF TEA.

    Favourites: A FORTIORI (new word for me, well clued), SCORPIO.

    Thanks, Tramp and blogger

31. Another super puzzle from Tramp – yes, you’re forgiven re 12ac, Neil. (I’m not so keen on the currently ubiquitous ‘tend to’, rather than ‘attend to’ or ‘tend’ as the definition in 16ac but, of course, it’s spot on for the superb surface, so I gave it a tick, anyway.)

    Other ticks were for GREASY SPOON, OOPS, ODOR, A FORTIORI, STETTO and CALENDAR GIRLS.

    I’m intrigued as to why, since EA is such a useful combination of letters, I (and, it seems, most others here) have never met it in a crossword before.

    Many thanks to Tramp for the fun and manehi for the blog.

32. Very much the sort of crossword I thought I’d never finish but was very pleased I did. But then I came to 15sq and found that my biffed in A POSTIORI was in error (twice over indeed, for I’ve since found it should have been A POSTERIORI if it was ever going to be right).

    Yup I know it would never have parsed but neither did BEEF TEA, lacking the recondite knowledge about EA. (And I’d earlier taken busy = policeman for granted.) That’s the problem if you can’t trust the parsings. You biff and you lose.

33. I didn’t know ‘ea’ for running water but if it is in the dictionary I have no complaint: learn something new every day.

    It took a while but it was a lovely crossword. Loved FLESHPOT and PHYSIOTHERAPIST and HOROLOGIST and HILLIER and PARTIAL and … so many treats! Thanks Tramp and thanks manehi for helping with the parsing of BEEFTEA and OPENFIRE.

34. Trailman @32: you are not alone in A POSTIORI which sounded very Latin to my (non classically educated) ear. I simply couldn’t equate POST with keep so the solution sat partially filled until almost the very end when inspiration struck.

35. I was only aware of stretto meaning the fugal device where entries of the subject overlap, so couldn’t figure out what ‘last’ was doing in the clue, hence my LOI.

36. I think EA as “running water” is used quite a bit in barred-grid, advanced thematic puzzles such as the Inquisitor and the Listener.

37. EA is not found in Chambers: XWD A Dictionary of Crossword Abbreviations by Michael Kindred and Derrick Knight (comp.) but it is at the back section of Chambers Crossword Manual by Don Manley. The abbr. EA has – river*
    (The star is an indication that it is “used mostly in advanced cryptics”.

38. William @18/19: Sarfend? Whatevah… 🙂

    [ Yuja Wang is a very controversial figure in the world of pianists along with folk like Lang Lang. For Bach, people like Angela Hewitt(she of the recently dropped grand piano) and Murray Perahia are up there with Schiff for me… ]

39. Struggled towards the end here, with STRETCH (the final ‘passage’ of a race) being a candidate for 3d until STET TO finally arrived. EA finally came to me when I took a short break and BEEF TEA was obvious on my return; there’s a river by the name of Eea in the Cartmel peninsular in Cumbria as well as in Chambers. Having confidently written in OPEN FIRE I then spent half an hour doubting it because the definition is so loose, which meant that the retrospectively obvious COPPERHEAD was my last one in.

    I’m surprised at Tramp @20 apologising for ‘mostly at large houses’, which was my favourite bit of an excellent crossword. Why is ‘in Australia mostly at large housing’ more acceptable? I have no problem with ‘in’ being used as a link word, and don’t see how it causes ‘housing’ to be correct but ‘houses’ not. If Tramp is not still around, perhaps Eileen or others can help me to achieve enlightenment? (I see ‘in’ here as short for ‘see the following wordplay for the construction of the word previously defined’. So, ‘mostly at large’=FRE then ‘houses’ ‘Australia’=OZ.)

    I don’t know what ‘writing’ is doing in 13a. The clue works perfectly without; is it meant as misdirection?

    Thanks to Tramp for an absorbing and challenging solve. (I don’t know what Van Winkle’s problem is @4.)

40. Rishi @ 37

    EA wouldn’t be found in a dictionary of crossword abbreviations because it isn’t one. It’s a two-letter word in its own right.

41. Follow-on to Anna@22 re A FORTIORI. I see it from time to time in non-fiction writing. I never ran into it in Latin O-level all those years ago (as a phrase, not the individual words), and apparently nobody could have, since according to the OED it was first used in 1855!

42. Sheffield Hatter

    It’s to do with crossword grammar. Some setters/solvers don’t care about such things, but, I try to. Here, the form of “houses” clashes with the “in”. Think of this sentence:

    in (with) houses

43. It’s to do with crossword grammar. Some setters/solvers don’t care about such things, but, I try to. Here, the form of “houses” clashes with the “in”. Think of this sentence:

    {answer} IN {A} (with) {B} HOUSES

    the HOUSES and IN clash.

    {answer} IN {A} (with) {B} HOUSING

    is much better. The excellent Alberich/Klingsor has a super article on linkwords (and other technicalities) on his site.

44. [sh @39: I recently re-read your late December discussion over on GD (117-129)so suspect I know exactly what VW’s problem is today.]

45. Thanks Tramp. I’m still not quite getting it. Clearly the surface works better with houses than with housing, which is why you felt the need to bend the rules a little.

    You say the cryptic grammar requires ‘housing’, not ‘houses’. But to my way of thinking the ‘in’ doesn’t make any difference to the following parts of the wordplay, because I see it as simply a link word. So I see it as ‘mostly at large’ ‘houses’ ‘Australia’. You seem to be saying it has to be ‘mostly at large’ ‘housing’ ‘Australia’, but I can’t see why. They both seem to work equally well.

46. Tramp – I’ve now seen your second post @43, and am a bit nearer to seeing what you’re getting at. I still think the clue works perfectly well as it is! (Though I can also see why some might think otherwise.)

    Thanks for trying to make this understandable.

47. [Mark @44. Yes indeed. It’s unlike him to not just come out and say it, though!]

48. I don’t see the bold, italic, & web link buttons any more. Have I inadvertently turned them off?

49. Simon S@40
    Thanks very much.

50. William @48
    Gaufrid is still struggling to reinstate them after an “update” to the program used to produce the site clashed. The neat system for links has gone too, and you may have noticed that the patagraph spacing isn’t there any more. He is hoping that he will be able to fix all these problems.

51. [muffin @50: are you still having problems with paragraph spacing? I thought that one had been fixed and many posts above have paragraph spacing. Your comments are often reasonably pithy – I’m just wondering whether you’ve actually used a paragraph break recently? You might find it’s working for you again. 😀 ]

52. [Hi PostMark
    There used to be a double space between paragraphs; now there’s only a single space. Better than no paragraph break at all, though, as was the case for the brief time that you refer to!]

53. sheffield hatter @47 – Tramp has confirmed @20 that the composition of this crossword predates that discussion, so no point extending it here.

54. Very enjoyable – STRETTO was a new one for me. Only one minor quibble: it seems like “writing” is superfluous in 13 ac.

55. [SH/VW – I’m still intrigued – could one of you elucidate, please? (I couldn’t find a thread that went up to 129, so wasn’t able to follow up your earlier hint, SH.)]

56. Thanks Tramp for an enjoyable solve and manehi for the blog. Was able to parse everything except EA and “busy” for “copper.” [Beef Tea I knew about from Penelope Fitzgerald’s The Gate of Angels.] 6d, 7d, and 15d were especially nice anagrams/surfaces.

    Did I detect a theme based on 8d?

    For 9ac I interpreted “pound” as £, the currency symbol, and I only just realized that it’s from the same root as lb. for the (US/imperial) unit of weight. Or is it mass?

57. Jay in Pittsburgh @54. I made the same point about 13a (see mine @39) but apparently no one else is bothered about it!

    [VW @53. Good point!]

    [muffin @55. The discussion alluded to by Mark @44 & VW @53 is on the General Discussion sub-forum 117-129.]

    [Re: paragraphs. I now have to press the Return key twice for a paragraph space whereas before it was just once. I think I’ll survive.]

58. Tramp @43
    But your clue doesn’t say ‘A [with] B houses’. It says ‘A [that] B houses’.
    With ‘in’ meaning ‘consisting of’ you have ‘D consisting of A that B houses’ which is fine.
    A [with] B houses is bad whether or not you have a link word.
    I think you may be thinking of the situation such as in this clue:
    Composer in regal dances (5)
    in which the subject of dances is the same word that the definition is ‘consisting of’. This one would need to be ‘Composer in regal dancing’.

59. [william @ 19, yes Yuja Wang is outstanding I am not sure what music you like but try her rendition of Prokofiev’s Second Piano Concerto, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyqJW6lVaWY&ab_channel=AlexandreClaudio , The first movement cadenza is just amazing, heartfelt and totally accurate she has been sent by the gods!] As for the crossword my late Mum used to say if you can’t say anything nice best to say nothing at all!

60. [Thanks SH @57]

61. [MaidenBartok @ 38 “Yuja Wang is a very controversial figure in the world of pianists” I wonder what you mean by controversial. I will not insult you by suggesting that her dresses offend but I would like to know to what you are referring. Oh and she plays your 1st Piano concerto better than anyone else I have heard up to now!]

62. I think the “writing” in 13a Tramp might have intended to emphasise the “me”, as he is the writer of the puzzle. Apart from that, I agree that it could be omitted.

63. [Sorry last post on this off theme topic I promise, but MaidenBartok@38 she does play Bach rather well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBTSAbyAAi8&ab_channel=EusebiusetFlorestan!! Happy New Year anyway to a fellow music lover and indeed to all here!]

64. I found this quite hard in the parsing department. The Online Etymology Dictionary has “ea (n.) the usual Old English word for “river, running water” (still in use in Lancashire, according to OED)” Ea bah gum, I never did. Learn summat everyday! I also reckon FROZE is fine as is.
    The &lit PHYSIOTHERAPY was my favourite. I liked the NITROGEN DIOXIDE anagram too, but the surface is a bit macabre. This clue reminded me of a chemistry demonstration at school where our teacher got one of us students to attempt to be the first person ever to find out what nitrogen monoxide (NO) smells like, the joke being that as soon as the gas (which is colourless) is exposed to air (in one’s nose, for example), it’s instantly oxidised to nitrogen dioxide (NO2, brown coloured) and so the experiment is impossible to do, but visually fun.
    Thanks for the entertainment, Tramp, and manehi for the parses.

65. Robi@27: Aha! OK — if the OED says so, then the claim that EA is/was a real word is pretty solid. There are very many rare, technical, arcane, slang and regional words that are or were in use: it’s just a matter of how far one’s general knowledge stretches.
    Thanks for that bit of research.

66. Just looked up ea (its got dots over the ‘e’ can’t remember what they’re called0 it’s Old English for river apparently.

67. phitonelly @64. “ea (n.) the usual Old English word for “river, running water” (still in use in Lancashire, according to OED)” Thanks for that, as it confirms my observation @39 re the River Eea in the Cartmel peninsular in Cumbria – Cartmel is part of Furness which used to be in Lancashire (before Cumbria was created in 1974). I thought this was a refreshingly innovative bit of wordplay from Tramp.

68. A challenge from Tramp but worth the struggle. EA definitely a regular in Azed’s.
    Thanks both.

69. [SPanza @61/63: Her dress sense doesn’t bother me at all – I’ll let Norman Lebrecht go OTT on that ad naseum… I don’t like her interpretation of Bach in the same way that I don’t like Joanna MacGregor’s – Wang uses too much rubato, MacGregor too much pedal. Both lend a romantic quality to Bach I just don’t like – I much prefer Hewitt or Schiff who are a LOT drier.

    I saw Yuja Wang play Rach 3 at the 2019 Proms and it was one of the best performances of it I have ever heard – it was one of those moments of just walking out after in a complete daze and oh my how I yearn to do that again soon. She is a fabulous pianist and let’s face it, Les Dawson was a better pianist than I’ll ever be – I just wouldn’t choose her for Bach (over Schiff). Really hoping beyond hope to be Promming again this year – please…

    And to maintain the off-topic-ness; that Prokofiev is a bit good, isn’t it? I have to say that Paavo Jarvi is just a superb conductor – enjoyed that; thank you – HNY!]

70. [MaidenBartok et al, I haven’t heard Yuja Wang, but I heard Lauren Zhang play that Prokofiev to win the BBC Young Musician in 2018 at only 16. It was astonishing. There’s a good recording of it on YouTube. I wonder if she played it after listening to Yuja Wang, because it’s generally played by more muscly types]

71. [Just heard the news from the US. Thinking of all our American friends tonight.]

72. [God essexboy – I hope it’s not the end of US democracy. It sounds dreadful.]

73. tony smith@66
    Re the two dots over e. It is called dieresis.
    I remembered it when I read your Comment around 3 a.m. in a wakeful moment before going back to sleep.
    Will give the meaning from MW: “mark placed over a vowel to indicate that the vowel is pronounced in a separate syllable (as in naïve or Brontë)”

74. [MaidenBartok I have just posted a few thoughts about music, pianists and covid on general discussions which you might be interested to see!]

75. Penfold@10, Tramp@20, et al: Until I saw Tramp’s note that the puzzle predates the testy blog episode of a few weeks ago, I assumed that this puzzle, with the “pox topic” was a deliberate nose-thumbing. Sorry, Tramp, for attributing such a motive to you.

    I really enjoyed this crossword, so much thanks, Tramp. My first run through late last night yielded very little, and I thought I was in trouble, But with a good night’s sleep and a fresh start today it all fell into place. Funny how that happens sometimes – and I’m usually mentally sharper late at night than in the morning. Faavourite among many was 21a A FORTIORI.

    Re the latin/italian clues, as copmus noted at 28, I think legal and musical terminology are the GK subjects required more than latin.

    [ Interesting discussion above about Yuja Wang. I had tickets to a concert that was supposed to feature Radu Lupu (my favourite pianist) who had to cancel due to illness. I was disappointed, but went anyway. The sub was a teenaged Yuja Wang, not yet famous, so I wasn’t expecting to like it. She played the Beethoven 4th Concerto. My experience was like yours, MaidenBartok@69 with her Rach 3 – a performance for the ages. ]

76. Trailman@h23
    There is story that an (18th century?) Earl was so convinced that he was about to give birth that he had himelf followed around by a sort of mobile birthing chamber, One day he asked his solicitor which would take precedence, the child he was expecting or one born of his wife. The solicitor replied, ” The issue of her ladyship would take precedence. Any issue of Your Grace would have to be a posteriori”.
    Thanks to Tramp and manehi

77. [Spanza @74: as soon as I can tear myself away from the news I’ll have a read!

    cellomaniac @75: Radu Lupu is (was) a class act.]

78. Late to the party but I read EA as Environment Agency, running water and other things.

79. Divorce court case today, so i was super pleased to come home to a Tramp and a few cold ones. Brilliant as always. loads of great clues. of course i liked HOROLOGIST, also CALENDAR GIRLS and PHYSIOTHERAPY – and plenty more.

    I didn’t know EA, but there it was in Chambers (you must have a different book, Rishi!)

    Thanks Tramp for letting me end my day with a smile, and thank you of course mane hi

80. dutch@79
    If Ea is a word in itself, it must be written as Ea (except of course in the grid where almost all of us use capital letters).
    So seeing EA (in all caps) in the above posts, I took it as an abbr. and looked it up in a dict. of abbrs., not the regular dict. My mistake.
    Even Don’s manual has it as EA (though the caption of the list, worded carefully, is indicators, not abbreviations, though the list has abbrs. too.

81. Bodycheetah, yes, in Liverpool the police are called the bizzies. I once asked my Scouse boyfriend of the time why. He said, “Well, they’re always busy, busy, busy, aren’t they?” That doesn’t explain the spelling but perhaps how the word originated.

82. @81. Indeed; no idea why manehi mentions “detectives”. A specificity too far I fancy!

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