Independent 10,849 by Eccles

Eccles fills the mid-week slot again this week.

We’re not sure if it’s the heat, but we didn’t enjoy this one as much as we expect of an Eccles. It was still an excellent puzzle with good surfaces, but we missed the smiles we usually experience when tackling an Eccles.

We cannot quite understand the parsing of 9ac – it seems to be the wrong way round – can anyone out there see how the wordplay can work in the manner intended?

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
1. With training, you or I belong in science (12)
NEUROBIOLOGY

An anagram (‘with training’) of YOU OR I BELONG

9. A director in nursing home, male, is attacking a person’s character (2,7)
AD HOMINEM

A D (director) + IN in or ‘nursing'(?) HOME + M. We really think this is wrong – IN should be ‘nursed by’ HOME for the wordplay to work, not the other way round.

10. Become crazy nationalist instead of good migrant (5)
NOMAD

gO MAD (become crazy) with N (nationalist) instead of the ‘g’ (good)

11. Extremely deficient game is over (6)
ACROSS

lACROSSe (game) without the first and last letters or ‘extremely deficient’

12. Let off steam about European border in earnest (8)
VEHEMENT

VENT (let off steam) round E (European) HEM (border)

13. Lost when river filters into another (6)
ASTRAY

AS (when) + R (river) ‘filtering into’ TAY (another river)

15. India probes pliant rupee dealer (8)
SUPPLIER

I (India in the phonetic alphabet) in or ‘probing’ SUPPLE (pliant) + R (rupee)

18. Encounter naked figure not at all quietly somersaulting (6,2)
HAPPEN ON

sHAPe (figure) without the first and last letters or ‘naked’ + NONE (not at all) P (quietly) reversed or ‘somersaulting’

19. The best way to release something that’s stuck, say a spigot? (6)
FAUCET

A homophone (‘say’) of FORCE IT (‘the best way to release something that’s stuck’)

21. Antiseptic creams or soap? Test half of each (8)
CREOSOTE

Half of each of CREams Or SOap TEst

23. Reveal I am Sting making a comeback (6)
IMPART

I’M (I am) + TRAP (sting) reversed or ‘making a comeback’

26. Raised bank loan, at first, the day before venture’s termination (5)
LEVEE

L (first letter of loan) EVE (the day before) E (last letter or ‘termination’ of venture)

27. American in favour of insurrection initially claiming disgraceful riot could be with stronger reason (1,8)
A FORTIORI

A (American) FOR (in favour of) I (first or ‘initial’ letter of insurrection) round or ‘claiming’ an anagram (‘disgraceful’) of RIOT

28. Café puts back five units regularly having narcotic effect (12)
STUPEFACIENT

A reversal of CAFE PUTS + alternate or ‘regular’ letters of fIvE uNiTs – a new word for us

DOWN
1. Knitwear against counter absorbs big drops of water (7)
NIAGARA

Hidden (‘absorbed’) and reversed (‘counter’) in knitweAR AGAINst

2. King of Britain left off King of Georgia’s middle name (5)
UTHER

lUTHER (middle name of ‘King of Georgia’ – Martin Luther King) without the ‘l’ (left)

3. Supported by state before maturity, is toeing the party line (2,7)
ON MESSAGE

ON (supported by) MESS (state, as in a ‘bit of a state’) AGE (maturity)

4. One running a Scottish island (4)
IONA

I (one) ON (running) A

5. Prepare to exercise leg, perhaps, and clean back (6,2)
LIMBER UP

LIMB (leg, perhaps) + PURE (clean) reversed or ‘back’

6. Information about artistic style (5)
GENRE

GEN (information) RE (about)

7. In the morning, cook, in case I forget (8)
AMNESIAC

AM (in the morning) + an anagram (‘cook’) of IN CASE

8. Overwhelmed by greed, I tormented journalist (6)
EDITOR

Hidden in or ‘overwhelmed by’ greED I TORmented

14. With too much capitalisation, have typo corrected (3-5)
TOP-HEAVY

An anagram (‘corrected’) of HAVE TYPO

16. Matter-of-fact shareholder’s meeting welcomed by idiot in charge (9)
PRAGMATIC

AGM (shareholder’s meeting) in or ‘welcomed by’ PRAT (idiot) IC (in charge)

17. Footwear affected in training regime (4,4)
BOOT CAMP

BOOT (footwear) CAMP (affected)

18. A milder form of hell will, we hear, disrupt routine (6)
HECKLE

A homophone (‘we hear’) of HECK (a milder form of hell as a swear word) ‘LL (will)

20. Breast lift husband is wanting for Communist sympathiser (7)
TITOIST

TIT (breast) hOIST (lift) without or ‘wanting’ the ‘h’ (husband)

22. Charming way to secure Number One (5)
SWEET

ST (street – ‘way’) round or ‘securing’ WEE (‘number one’ – slang for urine)

24. In hospital department, torso cut into quarters (5)
ABODE

BODy (torso) without the last letter or ‘cut’ in A and E (hospital department)

25. Make noise like a dog to court female (4)
WOOF

WOO (court) F (female)

 

23 comments on “Independent 10,849 by Eccles”

  1. It’s cold here and I enjoyed this.

    I wonder if 9a is A D + ‘in’ (= HOME) ‘nursing home’ (‘nursing’ as a containment indicator for ‘home’ = IN) + ‘male’ (= M). Switching around the meanings of IN for HOME and vice versa.

    Done in the end by the ‘extremely deficient game’ which was probably easier than the uncommon words STUPEFACIENT (wordplay helped) or TITOIST.

    ON MESSAGE is not exactly my favourite piece of jargon, but I liked WOOF.

    Thanks to Eccles and B&J

  2. I think we’ve certainly had more fun with Eccles Wednesday than I did today. Perhaps it was all those words from the Book of Obscure Words for Crossword Setters?? Anyone else stuck with an ear worm after solving 26a?

    thanks to Eccles and B&J

  3. I’m with WordPlodder re 9A. I struggled at first but switching the two meanings is very clever. Also with WP in being defeated by ACROSS even though I knew what I was trying to do. The game just wouldn’t come to mind and neither did I spot the definition I needed. Doh. Some quite cheeky clueing in here but very enjoyable, witty and well crafted. The anagram for NEUROBIOLOGY was clever and the creation of UTHER just glorious. King of Georgia indeed!

    Thanks Eccles and B&J. Good to see the celebratory bubbly has worn off in time for the blog.

  4. A lot of fun as usual from Eccles, although there seemed to be an overdose of Americanisms with SPIGOT, FAUCET, BOOT CAMP and ON MESSAGE even though the last two of these appear to be creeping in to our vocabulary. I suppose you could argue that SPIGOT defining FAUCET was an implied Americanism!

    A few obscure answers made the solve rather challenging. Luckily one of the commentators on Big Dave’s blog used the phrase AD HOMINEM a couple of days ago otherwise I wouldn’t have know that. I parsed that clue as WordPlodder did, and thought that the juxtaposition of IN and HOME was brilliant.

    I had loads of ticks with UTHER the cream of the crop for me.

    Many thanks to Eccles and to B&J.

  5. crypticsue @2: we posted at exactly the same time so I hadn’t noticed yours until just popping back. There isn’t much of a tradition of recognising earworms on the Indy page but, if one is going to be mentioned, I think you’ve pointed us at the best. Yup, thought of that as I solved and it’s been with me since!

  6. Zeppelin for Bonzo’s mighty drum sound-in the corridor with 2 mics(I like to think with one of the Johns bros in charge of recording.)
    Very good puzzle as usual from Eccles and not exactly easy
    A good puzzle day.

  7. TFO @10: the key words are “in nursing home”. “A Director” and “male” just provide the AD and M casing. If “in” can mean ‘home’ then “home” can mean ‘in’, then “in nursing home” can be HOME nursing (containing) IN. HOM(IN)E. Which, inserted into the casing, gives the solution

  8. Well after an initial query I parsed 9 exactly as wordplodder at 1 and can see no objection to it.
    If IN=HOME (which it does in crosswordland frequently) then HOME=IN and the clue works fine using the equivalences of the clue in the answer.
    Thought the ‘King of Georgia’ was briliant when I eventually saw it (after an interesting trawl through Georgian history!).
    Thanks to Eccles and B&J

  9. WordPlodder @1 How enviably clever of you to be somewhere cold. And how extremely clever of you (and others) to have sorted 9 across. Excellent stuff. Really enjoyed this. Loved the faucet, the nomad (great surface), the King of Georgia and the deficient game. Many thanks to Eccles and to Bertandjoyce – hope you’re not suffering too much in this awful heat.

  10. Definitely had us head scratching on the last few, but enjoyable overall. Had to cheat on 1d after thinking we ‘definitely don’t know this word’ only to then be embarrassed that it was a reverse hidden! Thanks Eccles and Bertandjoyce!

  11. Learnt a couple of new things from this one – that CREOSOTE is an antiseptic (not about to put that to the test!) and that there is such a word as STUPEFACIENT.
    Top three for me were FAUCET, PRAGMATIC & BOOT CAMP.

    Thanks to Eccles and to B&J for the review.

  12. jane @ 17: you wouldn’t be able to test creosote’s antiseptic powers as it’s been banned for domestic use in the UK since 2003, due to attendant health risks.

  13. Jane @17. Creosote is a generic name for a variety of phenol-based compounds made by distillation of fossil fuel or wood. The wood preservative is made from coal tar and the antiseptic from wood tar, so although similar, they are chemically different. Both types are pretty nasty toxicologically.

  14. UTHER was brilliant. [As for the earworm, surely you would want the levee to be dry, or there would be a flood?]

  15. Rather late in the day, as we’ve been out and about since posting the blog, we have to offer our humble apologies to Eccles and thanks to Wordplodder and PostMark for spotting the brilliant use of IN and HOME in 9ac – how could we imagine that Eccles would have got it so wrong? And how did we not spot it? Must be the heat!!

  16. Thanks to B&J for the review, and to all who commented. Congratulations too, B&J, on your recent wedding anniversary. Sorry the puzzle didn’t quite tickle you today. You weren’t the first to question 9A, though!

  17. I’d have enjoyed 2d like the rest of you if I’d ever heard of Uther before or known that Martin Luther King came from Georgia. A little ignorance goes a long way….

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