Azed No. 2,587 Plain

20 comments on “Azed No. 2,587 Plain”

1. By the lack of comments it would appear everyone agrees with PeeDee’s succinct intro.

   It was perhaps on the gentler side, but that suited me just fine,as I attempted it on an overnight ferry not having slept.

   You have an typo or autocorrupt in 3D stol not slot.

   Thanks Azed and PeeDee.

2. I really enjoyed this, so thanks to the setter. Thought I was going to claim a first time finished but messed it up by putting REFUEL for 2 down. (At the petrol station with the pistol cocked to refuel the car.). Or something like that. Haha. Needed to come here for quite a few parsings – thank you PeeDee. I still don’t understand TIPPLE though. Could someone kindly explain further?

3. Thanks for the blog , Trish@2 – TIPPLE is one of those pesky compound anagrams.
   First PEPSI and LILT give PEPSILILT then we have THIS IS and primarily Lilt so L .
   Giving “this” plus ISL , knock ISL out of PEPSILILT leaving PEPILT meaning “this” is TIPPLE (possibly).

4. Trish@2 that’s the first time I’ve ever seen any extra wordplay (primarily lilt =L) in a compound anagram, it did disguise the fodder somewhat. A good tip I got a few months ago was look for the THIS (you’ll also see here, that, and others) to help in identifying them. Then its just a case of comparing the two fodders in the same manner as a subtraction anagram.

5. I needed a tipple (not lite) after 20 across. Kicking myself that I didn’t get INSIDE RIGHTS straight off, not to mention LATTE.

6. Thanks for spotting that typo Blah. I am often unable to see these mistakes util someone pints them out. I just see the word that I thought I had typed, not the letters that are actually there.

7. “Pints them out” 🙂 (That was deliberate, right?)

   Seemed to be fairly easy this week, in that I completed it and I think I understood most of it. I’m reading the Iliad at the moment and was amused to see DARDAN and PELEUS. The Indy recently had Agamemnon and Aegis.

8. Thank you Roz and Blah.
   I’m probably being really thick but which bit of the clue tells you to take out ISL from PEPSILILT?

9. “Util someone” as well- lol

   Almost impossible to proof read one’s own work.

   I suffer from an over zealous and cretinous autocorrupt which has now taken to replacing ‘in’ with ‘I’m’, (it did so just then and I had to edit twice bah!)

   I dread to think what it would do to a blog explaining Azed’s wordplay.

10. It is messy Trish@8 TIPPLE IS and L make PEPSILILT when mixed up. ( THIS IS L ) with TIPPLE being the “this”.

11. Not at all Trish. I like to think of compound anagrams as an equation.

    We have the larger fodder and and anagrind on the left.
    (*PEPSI and LILT) cocktail is equal to THIS (the solution) +IS + L(ilt).

    You do have to look at the whole clue and the enumeration as there may well be link words that don’t form part of the fodder. In this case we need a 6 letter solution so have to find 3 letters to remove from PEPSILILT, we know L from lilt primarily, the only other option is to also take IS.

    It can also help to recast as a subtractive anagram

    PEPSILILT minus ISL equals PEPILT which then anagrams to tipple or a cocktail possibly.

12. Blah – an equation is an excellent way to look at it.

    This animal disrupts act (3)

    Definition is “this animal” and anagram fodder is ACT.

    For a compound anagram just add the same thing to each side and equality is maintained.

    This animal flap could be flat cap (3)

    Definition is still “this animal”, it is still an anagram, I just added the letters F,L,A and P to each side of the equation.

13. Nice example PeeDee, I do like how you explain things simply and clearly, I always seem to descend into an essay of waffle, comes with the name I suppose.

14. Aha! I see it now. Thank you Blah, Roz and PeeDee. Took my time to reply as I still couldn’t see it at once, but have since taken a break for lunch. Half a bottle of excellent Bordeaux and a good local Cognac have completely restored my brain cells. Santé.

15. Hllo all. Thanks as always to Azed & PeeDee. I seem to remember completing this on the day, not always the case.
    I also seem to have a gift for missing letters I thought I’d typed.
    A propos compound anagrams I was taken aback when one occurred in a weekday Guardian last week. .Another alternative to the THIS is SUCH. Ximenes wouldn’t allow them but at their best they are masterpieces of the setter’s art.

16. PEPSILILT is made up of TIPPLE, IS and I! Hurrah! Doh!

17. Just read trishincharente’s poat @14. How unkind! Makes me hark back to our travelling days. How was the melon crop this year?

18. Luscious, as ever, Keith. But a distant memory now. We are in the grip of a big freeze.

19. Coming really late to this one, isn’t 4 down an indirect anagram?

20. Thanks Azed and PeeDee
    Bridgesong@19 re 4dn: I think I am taking it the same way as PeeDee in his blog and would not call this an anagram at all, but a partial reversal, with the first and last letters being left in their original places.

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