Lost Youth by eXternal
(A poignant title in light of the tragedy in Creeslough – about 30km from here)
Each across clue contains a superfluous word; in clue order, one choice of second and penultimate letters of these words gives a song and the alternative choice gives its performers. Twenty-one down answers must have a letter removed wherever it occurs before entry; in clue order, removed letters give a partial quote. In the initially-filled grid, solvers must replace the contents of cells in three rows to show: (i) the title of a second song, which also completes the quote; (ii) the character delivering the quote; and (iii) the title of a thematic work; the final grid has three blacked-out squares in a column, to represent spaces, and contains all real words.
I often find that when clues have extra words, the extra words stand out but that was certainly not the case here. They were all well hidden – good job eXternal.
I took a while to get started on this puzzle but eventually things started to fit into place with a combination of acrosses and downs submitting virtually simultaneously. It was useful when I started pencilling the down answers in with two letters per square until I was able to eliminate one of each pair.
Eventually I started to make sense of some of the letters generated by across answers until all of a sudden SIMON AND GURFUNKEL, THE SOUND OF SILENCE leapt out. This meant that I could eliminate the extra words from my remaining across clues making solving much easier.
The extra letters from the down clues spelt YOU’RE TRYING TO SEDUCE ME with the unaffected clues providing the blanks – thanks eXternal.
“You’re trying to seduce me” is the last part of a quote from the 1967 movie The Graduate. The full quote, found here, is “Mrs. Robinson, you’re trying to seduce me!” spoken by Ben Braddock.
The final piece of the puzzle is to place THE GRADUATE, BEN BRADDOCK and MRS ROBINSON into the grid as shown in the accompanying image.
After a shaky start where I wasn’t really enamoured with it to the end when I realised that I thoroughly enjoyed it. Many thanks to eXternal.
Across | |||||
Clue | Answer/Entry | Extra word | Letters | Wordplay | |
1 Unionist ties, added aspects of chaotic artistic gatherings (12) | EISTEDDFODAU | ASPECTS | S |
T |
Unionist+TIES+ADDED+OF (anag: chaotic) |
9?Tell cleric to reject choir leader (6) | RELATE | CHOIR | H |
I |
[p]RELATE (cleric; minus first letter) |
11 Burning disused suit seems awfully concerning (6) | USTION | SEEMS | E |
M |
SUIT (anag: awfully)+ON (concerning) |
14?Rapping sounds from artist at back that’s shunning horrific noise at front (8) | RAT-A-TATS | NOISE | O |
S |
RA (artist)+AT (rev: back)+T[h]ATS (minus H[orrific]) |
15?Retired detective without sons settled in home (6) | NESTED | SONS | O |
N |
DETective+SEN (without) rev: retired |
18?Fabulous birds from east holding power on highest point (7) | SUPREME | FABULOUS | A |
U |
EMEUS (birds; rev: from east) around Power+RE (on) |
19?Slimy precipitate craft glue entering drains, precipitate removed (6) | SLUDGE | ENTERING | N |
N |
GLUE D[rain]S (minus RAIN (precipitate)) anag: craft |
20?Georgia adds special jerk describing dance moves (6) | GESTIC | ADDS | D |
D |
GEorgia+Special+TIC (jerk) |
22?Home housing gunners, say, full lounge area for military display (12, 2 words) | PARADE GROUND | LOUNGE | O |
G |
PAD (home) around RA (gunners)+EG (say)+ROUND (full) |
24?Head of makeshift government once endlessly fought European (6) | ATTLEE | MAKESHIFT | A |
F |
[b]ATTLE[d] (endlessly)+European |
26?Climbers slowly move to grab princess before backtracking (6) | LIANAS | PRINCESS | R |
S |
SNAIL (slowly move) around A (before) rev: backtracking |
29?Wife proclaims rector leads husband astray (7) | HERALDS | WIFE | I |
F |
Rector+LEADS+Husband (anag: astray) |
33?Camp cuddly salesman in the past more elusive, we heard (6) | SUTLER | CUDDLY | U |
L |
Sounds like SUBTLER (more elusive) |
35?Behaving carelessly can endanger tiger (8) | REACTING | ENDANGER | N |
E |
CAN TIGER (anag: carelessly) |
36?Besides vestibule, it unlocks heroin coffers (6) | EITHER | UNLOCKS | N |
K |
vestibulE IT HERoin (hidden: coffers) |
37?Distinctive character with case of select table salt (6) | AURATE | SELECT | E |
C |
AURA (distinctive character)+T[abl]E (case of) |
38?Daughter splitting proceeds on stall makes altered uniform (12) | STANDARDISES | ALTERED | L |
E |
STAND (stall)+ARISES (proceeds) around Daughter |
Down | |||||
Clue | Answer | Entry | Letter | Wordplay | |
1 Goddesses agreed to go after knight with anger mounting (7) | ERINYES | ERINES | Y |
IRE (rev: mounting)+N (knight)+YES (agreed) | |
2 Within ship, see flash cinematic techniques (6) | SLOMOS | SLMS | O |
LO (see)+MO (flash) inside SS (aboard ship) | |
3 Mocked relative wearing tweed regularly (7) | TAUNTED | TANTED | U |
AUNT (relative) “wearing” T[w]E[e]D (regularly) | |
4 Lord indicated terror (5) | DREAD | DEAD | R |
D (lord)+READ (indicated) | |
5 Because of couple singing in Italian, leaving entrance of theatre (5, 2 words) | DUE TO | DUTO | E |
DUET[t]O (Italian duet) minus T[heatre] (entrance to) | |
6 Swimmers rest having time for lunch, at last (6) | OTTERS | OT[h]ERS (rest) with [lunc]H (last letter) replaced by Time | |||
7 Policeman rested after climbing trees in India (5) | DITAS | DIAS | T |
DI (policeman)+SAT (rested; rev: after climbing) | |
8 Iffy section in a French river (6) | UNSURE | R |
UN (a in French)+Section+URE (river) | ||
10 Some vehicles require these exhausts, reportedly (5) | TYRES | TRES | Y |
Sounds like TIRES (exhausts) | |
12 Step over landing stage that’s comparatively weak (7) | SAPPIER | SAPPER | I |
PAS (step; rev: over)+PIER (landing stage) | |
13 Again put in earth and grass around plot close to apartment (9) | REPLANTED | REPLATED | N |
PLAN (plot)+[apartmen]T inside REED (grass) | |
16 Article pinched by suspect teeming with diamonds arranged in pairs (9) | GEMINATED | EMINATED | G |
A (article) inside TEEMING (anag: suspect)+Diamonds | |
17 Smart little building swallows start to ruin (4) | HURT | HUT (small building) around R[uin] (first letter) | |||
18 Fixed support in item of furniture (6) | SETTEE | SEEE | T |
SET (fixed)+TEE (support) | |
20 Try to toil over raising large amounts (7) | GOOGOLS | GGL | O |
GO (try)+SLOG (toil)+Over (rev: raising) | |
21 Adjust for lacking in success (4) | TUNE | [for]TUNE (success) minus FOR | |||
23 No longer publishes times outside US railroad (7) | DELATES | DELATE | S |
DATES (times) around EL (US railroad) | |
25 Rare wooden bow that man found in outskirts of London (7) | LARCHEN | LARCHN | E |
ARCH (bow)+HE (that man) inside L[ondo]N (outskirts) | |
27 Needing no introduction, expert on infectious diseases for sea creature (7) | ASTERID | D |
[m]ASTER (expert; minus first letter)+ID (infectious diseases) | ||
28 When lifting king, employs cranes (7) | SARUSES | U |
AS (when; rev: lifting)+R (king)+USES (employs) | ||
29 Champion Olympian’s domestic duties (6) | CHARES | C |
CHampion+ARES (Olympian) | ||
30 Figure out anagrams, ignoring trio playing musical composition (5) | FUGUE | E |
F[i]GU[r]E [o]U[t] (minus letters of TRIO; anag: playing) | ||
31 Vale traversed by sergeant-at-arms (4) | TATA | sergeanT AT Arms (hidden: traversed by | |||
32 One played older woman snaffling kid up (5) | MBIRA | M |
MA (old woman) around RIB (kid; rev: up) | ||
33 Drunk nears gin (5) | SNARE | E |
NEARS (anag: drunk) | ||
34 Measures of yarn fine to expend in impressive jumpers (4) | LEAS | [f]LEAS (impressive jumpers) minus Fine |
I saw the title and initially wondered whether we were going down the ‘Anthem for Doomed Youth’ or ‘Çanakkale’ routes (though the timing for both felt to be a bit wrong), but then almost immediately I found myself strolling around indoors singing : ” … and here’s to you, Mrs Robinson” – somehow Ben Braddock in his little red Alfa Romeo had flashed into my cranium as if by magic! Imagine my surprise when I solved the puzzle, my second complete finish in a row. So lost in reverie was I that I immediately bought the film on DVD and watched it last evening. A truly classic film score. I liked the use of the ‘second or penultimate letters’ in the added words … wonder how long before we see that device again ??? (see you all next week, folks)… 😉 All in all, a really fun and engaging puzzle.
I agree it was very enjoyable and with some impressive grid construction (particularly the symmetry of the required changes and changing Eisteddfodau to The Graduate!)
I was lucky to deduce the theme from the first 4 sets of surplus letters alone producing THES and SIMO which could only go one place.
I got a bit stuck at the end because I thought THE GRADUATE was “the character delivering the quote” (as Ben Braddock is indeed the graduate) so I was looking for an additional work for some time, checking out the remainder of the soundtrack and other youth-related books. Luckily it was obvious where the final entry would go so I managed to figure it out by looking at possible replacement-letter combinations.
Funny how some phrases have exactly the same number of letters to make them perfect for an Inquisitor, in this case Mrs Robinson, Ben Braddock and The Graduate are all 3+8 while Simon & Garfunkel and The Sound of Silence both have 17!
I don’t even know the film (nor any Simon and Garfunkel songs, though my learned wife can whistle all the tunes) but enjoyed the puzzle a lot anyway; hearty thanks to eXternal and kenmac. The key quote was familiar through some form of pop-cultural osmosis and everything followed neatly from that. What an impressive final grid transformation!
This really hit the spot for me; I have loved this film for forty years without ever noticing the title and two lead characters had identical word shapes (as Arnold pointed out), which is one reason I’ll never be an Inquisitor setter. Many thanks to eXternal and kenmac.
An enjoyable puzzle. Not knowing which letters to exclude from the down entries meant the grid fill was moderately difficult – and required the finished quote to complete. The endgame was very satisfying, with a pretty random looking grid falling together into something far more sensible.
This one was easier to finish than to start for me. After a couple of slow sessions with little to show, Simon and Garfunkel popped out from the few spare words I’d managed to identify, and from there, after weeding out the remaining extra words, the rest of the grid was filled fairly quickly, albeit with a couple of question marks about the parsing. Who knew that before = a in LIANAS? Certainly not me until reading the blog.
And another tick from me for the clever end game with three complete rows being overwritten to give thematic answers and all real words. Very impressive.
Thanks eXternal and kenmac.
I thought this was a masterpiece of construction and design – with top-notch clues as well. I remembered the songs and the music, and some of the film, and all I had to look up was the name of the graduate: Benjamin (or Ben) Braddock. I was pleased to find that the three components would go into the best places for them: the top, middle and bottom of the grid. Very neat. It was impressive to see them wiping out all the unreadable clusters of letters at a stroke.
In most of the Down clues, this puzzle used the same device as that used in the puzzle two weeks previously, whereby a letter is removed from the answer wherever it occurs. It was good to see this puzzle, just like the earlier one, giving us the answer-lengths for those clues and not the entry-lengths.
As noted already, the symmetry of the three thematic items was a highlight. How lucky! But I think setters ‘make their own luck’ by noticing such things, making a note of them and using them to good effect when the opportunity arises.
Many thanks to eXternal and kenmac.
I was making slow progress but had identified the first 2 extra words. From these I guessed the performers began with SI, and in a rare moment of inspiration derived SIMON AND GARFUNKEL, THE SOUND OF SILENCE, THE GRADUATE and MRS ROBINSON in about 5 minutes. After that it was plain sailing.
It helped that I am a bit of a music and film buff.
The UNKEL stood out at the end of the extra letters so that part was completed OK.(thought the clues were good)
Then I saw YOURE TRYING TO S?? wasnt sure of my parsing but sorted that out
The difficult bit(phone a friend) came trying to see what went where.
First Dustin Hoffman film I saw-forgot his name in it-33 lots of (3,8) with a gap-all very neat and symmetrical
Very ingenious using the fact that both the first song and the artist(s) had 17 letters
Been a Hoffman fan ever since.(paul Simon no slouch either!)
Great puzzle
I think everyone has already said it all. A masterpiece in terms of construction. Enjoyable to solve with a very satisfying endgame,
Thanks eXternal and kenmac.
Masterful! Absolutely superb grid manipulation. Pick of the year for me.
Thanks eXternal – you just knocked yourself off the top spot – and to kenmac.
Not much I can add to the above. Apart from enjoying the challenge of solving it, I am amazed at the incredible construction of the puzzle with all its interlocking features which have clicked together perfectly – no real words for the initial entries which transform into real words when the themed entries are made while the omitted letters provide the singers and the song. Wow, some feat of engineering!
Many thanks to eXternal and Kenmac.
Highly enjoyable. This one will rank high in POTY, I think.
Here’s to you eXternal and Kenmac.