Independent 11321 / Tees

21 comments on “Independent 11321 / Tees”

1. I had so many crossers that I semi cheated by using One Look which delivered the goods. My Portuguese is non existent (except Jose being pronounced with a J)But I am old enough to have memories.PEEVE was good too.

2. What Duncan said. Thanks to him for the review and to Tees for the fun.

3. ROSEHIP & DIOCESE:
   I parsed them as duncanshiell did.
   While getting there, had some thoughts…

   Started with …
   ROSE-went up
   IN- HIP
   Then I was looking for another wordplay. Price & rose could not be linked. So settled for ROSE+H+1P.

   Tried DO (not exactly a GP) around I +sound of SYS (short for ‘system’. Quite a stretch for ‘facility’). Then settled for the EASE-ESE logic. I feel there will be some discussion on this ‘homophone’.

   Thanks, Tees and duncanshiell!

4. Phew! Comprehensively beaten by the name and by DIABLERIE and the interlinked TREMATODE with its cunning ‘tod’ which I never remember! But I had all the crossers so not too far off. ROSEHIP, SPEEDWELL, INGENIOUS, NIELS BOHR, EVERGLADE and PEEVE were my favourites – and I discovered I’ve been mispronouncing DIOCESE all my life! I honestly thought the last syllable rhymed with ‘cease’ rather than ‘ease’. My bad.

   Thanks Tees and duncan

5. Postmark@4
   DIOCESE-
   Doesn’t the ‘cese’ part sound more like sis than cease?

6. Yes, it’s pronounced DIE UH SIS.

7. Took ages. LOI was the anagram. 15% of the grid. In desperation I googled Diego’s real name until Edson suddenly came to mind with the crossers I had and the rest followed. Top clue is THIRD DIMENSION and it wouldn’t be Tees without an entry like TREMATODE. LINER was a calculated assumption. Don’t understand ‘price’ in 10a. Thanks.

8. I had a vague memory of PELE’s full name but still needed the anagram fodder, crossers and a bit of luck to enter it correctly.

   Three new words, or senses, in DIABLERIE, ABSCISE and EVERGLADE for ‘slough’ or bog meant this needed a bit of thought. TREMATODE was also tough, both to think of the intended sense of ‘fluke’ and to parse correctly.

   Thanks to Tees and to Duncan

9. Sofamore@7
   For ‘smallest amount’ to indicate’1 P’ (IP) ‘price?’ is needed.

10. Homophones always seem to generate debate. I din’t think too much about when I wrote the blog as ‘ese’ seemed fine to me. I note though that both Collins and Chambers go with the ‘sis’ pronunciation as first or only choice, although Chambers does suggest the ‘ese’ version as well.

    In Chambers Thesauraus, ‘facility’ is the second synonym suggested for ‘ease’ in a group including effortlessness, skilfulness and deftness.

11. #7 I noted at 10A that ‘went up in price’ gets the cryptic qm, so I think a degree of whimsy there to accommodate the 1p joke, as ROSE could be clued more directly otherwise.

12. KVa @4: main thing is, it doesn’t sound like I’ve been pronouncing it.

    Of course, the lovely thing here would be able to reveal that I am an ordained bishop with a see of my own. But I’m not. (In fact, typing that, I suspect that ‘see’ might even be why I assumed DIOCESE had more of an ‘ee’ sound, even though the words are not related!)

13. Got it. Thanks.

14. That’s the first time one of my own posts on another crossword helped me solve/parse a clue.

15. Once 27A was solved, the long anagram was a write-in: I knew Edson but had to look up the rest of it. Diablerie and Abscise were new to me but easily worked out. Most enjoyable, so thanks Tees and Duncan.

16. Thanks both. I have been boring people for decades citing the full real name of PELE and also vaguely remembered NIELS BOHR but was brought to earth by the unknown DIABLERIE even though I had done the hard bit! – that said, for me, die and decline only become synonyms if e.g. terminal decline is indicated, which my erratic iPad dictionary appears to support

17. Well, we realised what the theme was, but even with all the crossers we had to resort to Google for Pele’s full name. Otherwise fairly straightforward, although DIABLERIE held us up briefly. But one of us was a chemist, so NIELS BOHR was no problem.
    Thanks, Tees and Duncan.

18. More knowledge of or even interest in football might have aided me considerably with this one – better familiarity with nuclear scientists could also have helped! Not to worry, I had a few lucky breaks and got through it all eventually.
    Particularly liked INGENIOUS & IN UTERO.

    Thanks to Tees and to Duncan.

19. Thanks Tees. There were 3 “weird words” for me — DIABLERIE, ABSCISE, and TREMATODE — I was happy to work out the 1st 2 but I needed help with the “fox” part of the latter. I googled Pele because I couldn’t quite work out his name. There were many great clues including ROSEHIP, IMAGINE, IN UTERO, MORALISTS as well as 6d, and 9d for the clever anagrams. Thanks Duncan for the blog.

20. Enjoyable puzzle.

    FWIW, Guardian puzzles of a previous era — Bunthorne, Araucaria et al — were more like this, for me at least, with the odd unusual word, long anagram etc, so it was nice to have that kind of a challenge, albeit updated for the 2020s, as of course it should be.

21. Very late to this but had to pop in to say what an absolutely cracking puzzle. Loved it. Challenging in places but all came together very nicely in the end. Bravo, Tees. And thanks, Duncan.

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