Independent 11,338 by Filbert

Monday and regular setter Filbert once more to strike fear into the heart of unwary bloggers

Quite tricky in places, certainly 7 down I could do with help and a query on 11. Thanks Filbert for the workout.

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
1. E.g. pool’s sides lined with large pointless tiles (6)
BLANKS

Well they’re pointless in scrabble. L(arge) in BANKS for the sides of say a pool or river

5. Import English article into China (7)
MEANING

E(nglish) & AN all in MING – china

9. Pepper, say, is ground not minced (9)
CONDIMENT

A ground [NOT MINCED]*

10. Wheat shaped history with the start of agriculture (5)
PASTA

PAST – history & start of A(griculture). It’s more a case of shaped wheat flour methinks

11. Standard bother about beach outing; naked best? (5,3,7)
STARS AND STRIPES

RATS – bother reversed & SANDS – beach & TRIP – outing & a naked (b)ES(t). I think so but SANDS implies beaches though

13. Plump single mother better than the rest (7)
OPTIMUM

OPT – I’ll plump for that one & I a single & MUM – mother

15. Some flexible tiles flipping crack (5)
ELITE

Reversed (flipping) hidden in flexiblE TILEs

17. Anvil‘s 7 copper parts (5)
INCUS

A bone in the ear CU – copper in 7 – INS

19. Leg not broken, but abandoning with puncture (7)
PINHOLE

PIN – leg & W(ith) removed from (w)HOLE – not broken

21. Ann is inheriting forged Reynolds picture (6,2,3,4)
SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN

Debbie Reynolds this time – a forged [ANN IS INHERITING]*

23. Sweep called back to apologise (5)
RANGE

RANG & back of (apologis)E

25. Car from Finland reversing into field (9)
LIMOUSINE

SUOMI – Finland reversed into LINE – field as in what’s your line, work, field

26. Wealthy looker gets date on first day (7)
MONEYED

MON – first day of the week & EYE – looker & D(ate)

27. Shop with c as the first letter becomes chop (6)
CUTLET

OUTLET with first letter changed to C.

DOWN
2. 50 actors in Narnia butchered Henry V, say (11)
LANCASTRIAN

L – fifty & CAST – actors in a butchered NARNIA*

3. When cycling, slow mover manages perfectly (5)
NAILS

SNAIL with the S cycled to the back

4. Bone in back? That’s doubtful (7)
STERNUM

STERN – back & UM – that’s doubtful

5. Miss tea to overhaul paper cutter (7)
MATISSE

An overhauled [MISS TEA]* Matisse often used pieces of paper cut into shapes in his works hence paper cutter, not the most obvious definition I’ll grant you.

6. Slander, according to boy, gets one imprisoned (9)
ASPERSION

AS PER – according to & I imprisoned by SON

7. Successful party succeeds without women (3)
INS

Perhaps I’m being a bit slow today, I see W(omen) removed from (w)INS but INS for the successful party, they’re the INS the ones now in government maybe.

8. Windy around top of lighthouse, perfectly calm at sea (6)
GLASSY

Top of L(ighthouse) in GASSY for WINDY

9. Creationists gutted admitting very large flash produces this? (6)
COSMOS

All in one cum cryptic def. A gutted C(reationist)S with OS – very large & MO – a flash, instant inserted

12. Old first lady and VP speaking nicely, raised in privilege (11)
PREROGATIVE

EVITA (peron) old first lady & (al) GORE – the v.p. & RP – estuary english all reversed

14. Backbone dividing Madonna’s moving parts (9)
MACHINERY

CHINE backbone especially in joints of meat inside MARY for madonna

16. Communion with spirits bringing Irishman to church (6)
SEANCE

SEAN – common Irish name & C.E.

18. Expert witness’s conclusion rubbed out (7)
SKILLED

End of (witnes)S & KILLED – rubbed out

19. River vessel, ordinary and waterproof (7)
POTOMAC

POT – vessel & O(rdinary) & MAC coat

20. Religious retreat has converted member of the flock (6)
ASHRAM

HAS* converted & RAM – part of a flock

22. Clean up Toby’s first belch (5)
ERUPT

PURE – clean reversed & top of T(oby)

24. Sister nobody listened to (3)
NUN

Sounds like none

21 comments on “Independent 11,338 by Filbert”

  1. Hovis
    Comment #1
    February 13, 2023 at 8:14 am

    Phew! Had to cheat a little in the SE and was defeated by BLANKS. Thought the clue for CUTLET was very clever, although the answer could easily have been OUTLET. Great setter. A bit too hard for me today but that’s how one improves.

  2. Sofamore
    Comment #2
    February 13, 2023 at 8:30 am

    Super SKILLED. ‘Estuary English’ is new for me. Google says RP and London speech. I couldnt parse PREROGATIVE. I was stuck on GORE and PAT for Nixon. Didn’t read the clue. Where to start with a favourite. Crossword of the week so far. STERNUM, LIMOUSINE, STARS AND STRIPES, and BLANKS (‘of a pool or river’). Thanks.

  3. Muffyword
    Comment #3
    February 13, 2023 at 8:39 am

    Anyone else have ERUCT at 22d?

  4. PostMark
    Comment #4
    February 13, 2023 at 8:47 am

    Hadn’t thought of you as an unwary blogger, flashling! As far as 7d goes, I am an equally unwary solver – nho INS in that context but Chambers has A member of the party in office as one of just three nounal defs for IN. Sands is less contentious – there are plenty of single eg Saunton (and even one shingle – Camber) beaches around the UK called *** Sands.

    This was a splendid test for a Monday as always with Filbert. CONDIMENT, OPTIMUM, LIMOUSINE, CUTLET, the &littish STERNUM and the very &littish COSMOS were my faves.

    I was defeated by ERUPT having concluded ERUCT being a reversal of ‘cure’ followed by the T. Cure can mean eliminate and, having assumed our setter had made that connection, I moved on without giving it another thought until the software told me at the end that I’d made an error. ERUPT is far better, of course.

    Thanks Filbert and flashling

  5. PostMark
    Comment #5
    February 13, 2023 at 8:48 am

    Muffyword – Yes! But it took me longer to write my missive …

  6. flashling
    Comment #6
    February 13, 2023 at 8:50 am

    @muffyword, I’ve just checked online and ERUPT seems intended – ERUCT certainly fits too to me. Bit unfortunate that.

  7. Stephen L.
    Comment #7
    February 13, 2023 at 9:24 am

    I could really have re-written Post Mark’s comment, even down to his thoughts on Saunton Sands, a favourite place of mine. I too had eruct not erupt initially too.
    I can’t say this was my favourite puzzle with some less than convincing surface reads mixed with some clever stuff. Still, plenty to like including PINHOLE, GLASSY, NAILS, COSMOS and my definite favourite, the super ASPERSION.
    Many thanks to Filbert and flashling.

  8. Ian SW3
    Comment #8
    February 13, 2023 at 9:36 am

    Estuary is most definitely not RP, though I am newly informed by Googling that the term I have mostly seen used derisively has elements of RP. One description I read was midway between RP and cockney.

  9. frankieg
    Comment #9
    February 13, 2023 at 10:33 am

    As PostMark@4 I was held up by the app until I twigged that ERUCT didn’t quite parse.
    Loved the COSMOS &lit. Great surface.
    MATISSE’s The SNAIL mentioned in 3a NAILS recalled Sundays in the Tate (now Britain), doing activities with the kids.
    !’m pleased to see they’re still available:

  10. FrankieG
    Comment #10
    February 13, 2023 at 10:40 am
  11. FrankieG
    Comment #11
    February 13, 2023 at 11:09 am

    Sorry, 3d NAILS

  12. WordPlodder
    Comment #12
    February 13, 2023 at 11:46 am

    I enjoy the fortnightly Monday tussle with Filbert, even though I had to admit defeat today with an incorrect BLANKS, for which I put in a nonsense word (“plands”), an unparsed MATISSE (no idea) and a bunged in from the def STARS AND STRIPES. Spoilt for choice for my favourite, but I’ll go for the not Sir Joshua ‘Reynolds picture’ for SINGIN’ IN THE RAIN as my pick.

    Thanks to flashling and Filbert

  13. Petert
    Comment #13
    February 13, 2023 at 11:54 am

    I drew a BLANK on 1ac, but I think it’s very clever now I have seen it. ASPERSION and PREROGATIVE were both very good, but COSMOS was my favourite. Thanks, both.

  14. TFO
    Comment #14
    February 13, 2023 at 1:16 pm

    Thanks both. Also defeated by BLANKS which is simpler than I was making it, though I would not refer to the sides of a pool as banks. Parsing of PREROGATIVE was incomplete, as didn’t know the RP piece, and could dispute the ‘old’ element, where I would prefer ‘former’, as Eva Peron died aged 33

  15. allan_c
    Comment #15
    February 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm

    We couldn’t fully parse STARS AND STRIPES or PREROGATIVE but otherwise we found this fairly easy going for Filbert. We likes LIMOUSINE, CUTLET, LANCASTRIAN and ASPERSION.
    Thanks, Filbert and flashling.

  16. rocket
    Comment #16
    February 13, 2023 at 2:09 pm

    Thanks to Filbert for the stretching of the grey matter, and to flashling for filling in where I didn’t have quite enough elasticity. Completed online without error but was nowhere near parsing STARS AND STRIPES, PREROGATIVE or PINHOLE which were all filled in from definitions only. I did parse 1a, but needed all the crossers and only then was I able to fill in the BLANKS.

    As with plenty of others I really liked STERNUM and CUTLET.

  17. Simon S
    Comment #17
    February 13, 2023 at 3:21 pm

    TFO @ 14 I would agree with you about the sides of a swimming pool, but I think a natural pool has banks not sides.

  18. gsolphotog
    Comment #18
    February 13, 2023 at 5:08 pm

    Superb puzzle. I hope Filbert becomes a Monday fixture.

  19. Tony Santucci
    Comment #19
    February 13, 2023 at 7:18 pm

    Thanks Filbert for your customary excellence. I too had eruct instead of ERUPT, maybe because eruct was recently in another crossword. I also missed CUTLET but all else fell into place more easily than I expected. My top choices were MEANING (for once China was not rhyming slang), RANGE, and POTOMAC. Thanks flashling for the blog. I second what gsolphotog @18 said.

  20. Widdersbel
    Comment #20
    February 13, 2023 at 10:48 pm

    Excellent puzzle, thanks, Filbert. Tricky in places but fun. Particularly liked CUTLET. And thanks for the blog, flashling.

    I’m another who had ERUCT until the app told me it was wrong.

  21. Tony Collman
    Comment #21
    February 15, 2023 at 1:22 am

    “No accent is intrinsically good or bad, but it has to be recognized that the way we perceive accents does play a role in our attitude to others. Different people have differing perceptions. So there are significant numbers of young people who see Estuary English as modern, up-front, high on ‘street cred’ and ideal for image-conscious trendsetters. Others regard it as projecting an approachable, informal and flexible image. Whereas RP, Queen’s English, Oxford English and Sloane Ranger English are all increasingly perceived as exclusive and formal.” —Paul Coggle, 1993, in Do you speak Estuary?
    https://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/estuary/

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