Seesaw by Kruger
Wordplay in 13 clues yields an extra letter not to be entered in the grid. In clue order, these letters will give solvers a titular experience that translates to how some answers are to be modified before entry. Where these words are locally significant must be highlighted in the completed grid. Lengths in brackets refer to grid entries; unchecked letters in thematic entries could give SAD DS CAUSEWAY HOLIDAYS
In the red corner we have Kruger. In the blue corner we have kenmac. The first time these two adversaries have been in the ring together since September 2022.
As usual, the preamble is as confusing as it is helpful. The main thing to concentrate on is that 13 clues generate an extra letter. 1a looks like it wants to be something like ABYSMAL but that doesn’t fit. Ah, there’s a bit about lengths in brackets refer to grid entries. Rats! Could be bad news for kenmac, as Kruger takes the lead in the points.
10a, however, fell pretty easily and yielded my first extra letter. Take that, Kruger. Looks like kenmac may have evened the score.
Answers began to tumble in quite nicely and it soon became obvious that the perimeter entries were going to be affected and all was going fine until 29a also proved impossible. Sneaky Kruger, he’s slipped an extra one into the middle of the grid. Surely the referee should step in and issue a warning for foul play. After all, it is below the belt!

I managed to reach a point where things stagnated for a while and I had 11 of the 13 extra letters, spelling MULT??INPARVO.
I don’t really know any Latin but the “in parvo” bit sure looks like Latin to me. Thus I confirmed that we were looking for the phrase MULTUM IN PARVO, which means: much in little, a large amount in a small space. Now I could see that LOTS could be slipped into the middle of ABYSMALLY in 1a. I manged to put MUCH in 12d and SOME in 10d and then struggled with 43a and 29a across. It was only then that I resorted to the “SAD DS CAUSEWAY HOLIDAYS” bit and realised that 10d couldn’t be SOME if LOTS was right since there’s only one “O”. Only then did I realise that SOME couldn’t be right anyway because it didn’t fit the five-letter space available for it. Thus I discovered SCADS, which I didn’t know. And then 43a and 29a sorted themselves out.
OK, grid filled. What next? I’ve had a lot of trouble with endgames recently and I thought, “oh, here we go again. I’m going to have to ask for help.” As ever, elmac came to my rescue as she discovered that MULTUM IN PARVO (much in little) is also the motto of Rutland. That explains why/where these words are “locally significant” and there we find RUTLAND in the central column from g4-g10.
I think that’s it apart from one thing. I really don’t understand the title – Seesaw. Hopefully some kind commenters will help.
Many thanks Kruger for another wonderful puzzle. Let’s declare this contest a draw as I look forward to our next meeting.
From CranberryBoat’s comment below, I see that I missed the fact that all the “BIG” words are hidden inside hidden “small” words.
[aby]smaLOTSll[y]
[mu]tSCADSiny
shoMUCHrt[en]
[de]scOFTENant[s]
weBYFARed
And finally, the title? Straight from the horse’s mouth:
The “titular experience” is that you will “See” a “Saw” [saying/proverb etc] from the extra letters.
| Across | |||
| Clue | Entry | Extra letter  | 
Wordplay | 
| 1 In a very bad way, no longer continue to sway having taken start of medication (13) | ABYSMALLY (LOTS)  | 
ABY (continue; archaic)+SALLY (sway) around M[edication] (start of) | |
| 10 Jockey made to cut field (6) | MEADOW | M | 
MADE (anag: jockey)+MOW (to cut) | 
| 11 Opinion without dispute (5, 2 words) | BE TWO | BET (opinion)+WO (without) | |
| 13 Unreal AI casting earl’s broken bones (7) | ULNARIA | UNR[e]AL AI (minus Earl) anag: broken | |
| 14 Clasped ornament once – that hurt! (4) | OUCH | (double def) | |
| 15 Almost capture adult rhino in Bangladesh (4) | TAKA | TAK[e] (capture; almost)+Adult | |
| 16 Scots last lament in suburbs of Dundee (4) | DREE | U | 
RUE (lament) inside D[unde]E (outskirts of) | 
| 18 Therapy hit us as being dubious (7) | SHIATSU | HIT AT US (anag: being dubious) | |
| 22 Mule essentially lies in coarse straw (5) | HAULM | [m]UL[e] (essentially) inside HAM (course) | |
| 23 Questioned Tory directed to describe trial (9) | CONTESTED | L | 
CONservative+TEST (trial)+LED (directed) | 
| 25 Minutes before diplomacy takes precedence (4) | ACTA | T | 
TACT (diplomacy)+A (before) | 
| 27 Imp from mountain visiting Haiti (5) | RALPH | RH (Haiti) around ALP (mountain) | |
| 28 Skunk’s matted coat (4) | ATOC | COAT (anag: matted) | |
| 29 Jock’s cold is a troublesome thing (9) | WEED (BY FAR)  | 
(double def) | |
| 31 Young man scrubbing Heather’s skin (5) | STRIP | STRIP[ling] (young man) minus LING (heather) | |
| 33 Comparatively short mariner foolishly changing krone for marks (7) | NARKIER | KARINER (mariner with Marks changed to Krone) anag: foolishly | |
| 34 Quaintly charming judge embraced by Lewis’s grandchild (4) | OLDE | U | 
LUD (judge) inside OE (grandchild in Scotland: Lewis) | 
| 37 Fabric from Swedish company catalogue finally delivered on time (4) | IKAT | IK[e]A (Swedish company; minus [catalogu]E)+Time | |
| 39 Hands back stone shelter (4) | NEST | M | 
MEN (hands; rev: back)+STone | 
| 40 Long-standing oddball told me I’m losing money (7) | OLD-TIME | TOLD ME I‘[m] (minus Money) anag: oddball | |
| 41 Look favourably on special race (5) | SMILE | Special+MILE (race) | |
| 42 Drove around lake wearing good American overcoat (6) | RAGLAN | RAN (drove) around G+Lake+Ameican | |
| 43 Previous comments, from the outset, disrespectfully are not able to disrupt El Salvador society (13) | DESCANTS (OFTEN)  | 
D[isrepectfully) (from the outset)+ES (El Salvador)+CAN‘T (are unable to)+Society | |
| Down | |||
| 2?Some trees are healthy over in Bahamas (6) | BELAHS | BS (Bahamas) around HALE (healthy; rev: over) | |
| 3?American ox is outside home (4) | YANK | I | 
YAK (ox) around IN (home) | 
| 4?Putting off Essex girl first to approach politician (8) | MORATORY | MOR (same as mauther:Essex girl)+A[pproach] (first letter)+TORY (politician) | |
| 5?Protest strongly about perjurer (4) | LIAR | RAIL (protest strongly) rev: about | |
| 6?Old man from Birmingham perhaps beginning to enjoy instrument (4) | OBOE | Old+BO (man from USA: Birmingham, Alabama)+E[njoy] (beginning) | |
| 7?Set to deface column (4) | TELE | [s]TELE (column; de-faced) | |
| 8?Initially sees apes putting nearly all of fruit in mouths (7) | STOMATA | S[ees]+TOMAT[o] (fruit; almost all)+A[pes] | |
| 9?Donation to Guatemalan college upset resident (5) | LOCAL | N | 
GuatemaLAN COLlege hidden: donation to; rev: upset | 
| 10 Rising conductor conquers the Big Apple (11) | MUTINY (SCADS)  | 
MUTI (conductor)+NY (Big Apple) Riccardo Muti – never heard of him.  | 
|
| 12 Reduce hands-on therapy (otherwise treatment ultimately included) (11) | SHORTEN (MUCH)  | 
SHEN (hands-on therapy) around OR (otherwise)+[treatmen]T (ultimately) | |
| 17 After tribute to tenor, reviewed appeal for performances by two (6) | DUETTI | DUE (tribute)+Tenor+IT (appeal; rev: reviewed) | |
| 19 Trainee Norman’s ready to be put up in hotel (6) | INTERN | P | 
INN (hotel) around PRET (ready in French: Norman; rev: put up) | 
| 20 Primarily, Serengeti relocated fauna in a terrible state (5) | SNAFU | A | 
S[erengeti] (primarily)+FAUNA (anag: relocated) | 
| 21 Chronic skin disease affected Pearl (5) | LEPRA | PEARL (anag: affected) | |
| 24 Playwright, female, tended to entertain papers (8) | SHERIDAN | SHE (female)+RAN (tended) around ID (papers) | |
| 26 Dead spirit haunting very cold place (after leaving Taiwan) (7) | ABIOTIC | R | 
A[rc]TIC (very cold place) minus RC (Taiwan) around BRIO (spirit) | 
| 30 Animals smashed vase, covering carpet (6, 2 words) | SEA MAT | V | 
VASE (anag: smashed)+MAT (carpet) | 
| 32 Home Counties events? (5) | THESE | THE South East (Home Counties) | |
| 34 City too rampant – substituting Oscar for leader of attack (4) | OSLO | [a]LSO with Oscar replacing A[ttack] (leader) anag: rampant | |
| 35 General situation of beloved forgotten (4) | LIEF | O | 
LIE (general situation)+OF | 
| 36 Subdue the fire of audience’s question (4) | DOUT | Sounds like DOUBT (question) | |
| 38 Just about approve of lifting new oven (4) | KILN | LIK[e] approve of (just about) rev: lifting+New | |
When I had just three or four ‘normal’ clues left to solve, and after I had spent some time trying to work out the clues to the five modified entries, I was inclined to give up. I knew the Latin phrase but could not make use of it. Luckily, on returning to the puzzle the next day, I solved ABYSMALLY and DESCANTS, and saw how two ‘multum’ words (LOTS and OFTEN) would fit inside them. The other three modified entries followed (SCADS being as new to me as it was for you, kenmac). Last of all, the ‘in parvo’ pieces magically revealed themselves in those entries – very neat.
The meaning of the final instruction was not clear. ‘Where’ did not necessarily mean a placename, and ‘these words’ did not not refer back to any ‘words’ mentioned previously. (Words formed by the ‘letters’? Words in the thematic entries?). I didn’t have to ponder for long, fortunately, because I happened to see RUTLAND sitting there in the grid (prominently in the centre).
I enjoyed solving this puzzle, in which there were many excellent clues.
This puzzle reminded me of one nearly four years ago (no. 1590) by Kruger in which the thematic entries had bones inside dogs (the key phrase, in English, being ‘Give a dog a bone’). It’s good to have ‘technical’ or ‘language play’ themes like these from time to time as a change from external (real-world or fictional) themes that come with most of these puzzles.
Thanks to Kruger and kenmac. (I too have left ‘Seesaw’ for others to work out!)
A lovely puzzle Apologies if I’ve missed it in the blog, but the “large” entries are all inside “small” words: abySMALLy, SHORTen, deSCANT and muTINY. (As for title – not sure, perhaps you need to “see” the “saw”/motto?) Thanks kenmac & Kruger!
(and WEEd, too sorry!)
CB @2
Gosh! I didn’t spot that at all and I did wonder. I’ll add something to the blog in a while.
When i were lad I remember I was at Leicester Uni and the bar sold Ruddles County which I believe was in Rutland
I believe the county was abolished after that only to be reinstated
I saw RUTLAND in the grid and looked up its motto which saved a certain amount of trouble but the bottom line needed me to get my hands dirty
I’m still a rookie to these but there’s nothing like a decent ale to inspire
I once rang the brewery and a voice answered “Tony Ruddle here”
Dont qute know what happened to it but Rutland lived on in Rutland Weekend Television not to mention The Ruttles
Fun puzzle
An odd solve in that I had a finished grid, spotted what we needed to do to amend the entries, completed a likely looking bit of highlighting, but as I was struggling to get all the letters for the Latin phrase, didn’t have the foggiest what it all meant. I would still have been up for a prize in the good old days, which is what counts. 😉
I earned my ticket to the endgame, got all the framing words, but simply couldn’t see how to fill them. Partly because an error in my extra letters meant I failed to see the Latin; partly because I didn’t keep my mind open enough as to how exactly the framing words should be entered. So even though I spotted Rutland, I was completely lost. So many thanks to kenmac for the blog; and to Kruger for the defeat.
A well constructed grid I thought, I particularly liked the large words inside the small. Very neat. I also couldn’t understand the title, so I didn’t really get the ‘titular experience’ that is referred to in the rubric, which spoilt my enjoyment of this one a little bit.
copmus @ 5 : I had some Ruddles Best today … at a mere £1.82 per pint at a well know chain of ‘cheap boozers’. A few weeks ago they had it on special offer, at only 99p per pint … took me right back to my student days too! 😉
Finished the puzzle but found it mildly unsatisfying, though I can’t quite explain why. Perhaps because I hadn’t heard of Rutland’s motto (and needed my wife’s help to point it out), or because it took a long time to do.
Nonetheless beautifully constructed so thank you!
Much enjoyed here; all thanks to Kruger and kenmac.
I finished (eventually) with no problem but failed to see the full cunning of the multum-in-parvo packaging, because I remained stuck on the full-length surrounding words. Well, abysmally is pretty low; shorten is to make small; a weed is a runt; and mu-tiny — where I came close — is the Greek character used for “micro” plus a more obviously small thing. Surely there must be some special meaning of descants, lower pitch or something, that could be squared with the rest? Oh well…. (Dons dunce cap, retires to corner.)
I’d love to get Kruger’s take on it, as I thought only the straightforward ‘little’ words were thematic ie small, tiny, scant, short and wee [not weeD].
And then ‘mutiny’ (et al.) was just a way of getting ‘tiny’ into the grid, rather than an elaborate double-theme on the letter ‘mu’.
But maybe I’m underselling Kruger here!