Independent 11,544 by Filbert

We missed blogging Filbert last week as we swapped with Quirister.

If we haven’t already checked the setter’s name before we start solving, we can normally identify a Filbert puzzle. There are often some ‘tenuous’ synonyms in our opinion although just lately we seem to be more on the setter’s wavelength.

However, there were a number of clues which we weren’t happy with today and would welcome other opinions. The definitions in 11ac and 21d are dubious (in our opinion) and we may well be missing something in 13ac. 7d was in our view a bit ‘clunky’. However, on the plus side we liked 22ac and the surface reading of many others, including 1ac and 23d.

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
1. Dry weather promised rough time with early and late crops (7)
DROUGHT

Hidden (‘with early and late crops’) in promiseD ROUGH Time

5. Breezy if one’s collected by helicopter dropping over (7)
CHIPPER

I (one) in or ‘collected by’ CHoPPER (helicopter) missing or ‘dropping’ o (over)

9. Shed American clears for some percussion (9)
CASTANETS

CAST (shed) A (American) NETS (clears as in earns)

10. Jolt in car that’s jumped without starting (5)
PRANG

sPRANG (jumped) without first or ‘starting’ letter

11. Experienced engineer bored tunnels around Spain (5,4,4)
UNDER ONES BELT

An anagram (‘engineer’) of BORED TUNNELS around E (Spain). Does ‘experienced’ really mean ‘under ones belt’?

13. Bid too rarely in bridge? (8)
OVERPASS

Well…….. a bridge could be an overpass. A ‘pass’ in Bridge (the card game) is used when you say that you will not win any tricks. Not being aficionados of the game, we are not sure whether Filbert wants us to think of this as a cryptic definition, clue as definition or double definition!

15. Tacky pictures, say of small furry animals and children (6)
KITSCH

KITS (small furry animals CH (children) – we initially thought ‘pictures’ was superfluous, but apparently ‘kitsch’ can refer to art etc

17. Herdsman departs with dog (6)
DROVER

D (departs) ROVER (dog)

19. Very precise girl with UCAS forms (8)
SURGICAL

An anagram (‘forms’) of GIRL and UCAS

22. Not yet dealt with case of larceny? Very well (13)
OUTSTANDINGLY

OUTSTANDING (not yet dealt with) LarcenY (first and last letters only or ‘case’)

25. Intentionally lose the argument, saving energy (5)
THROW

THe ROW (the argument) without or ‘saving’ e (energy)

26. Witness cops treat badly (9)
SPECTATOR

An anagram (‘badly’) of COPS TREAT

27. Poisonous plant with cutting still on end of table (3,4)
YEW TREE

W (with) inside or ‘cutting’ YET (still) + RE (on) E (last letter or ‘end’ of table)

28. Notice drunk brightened up specially (7)
SPOTLIT

SPOT (notice) LIT (drunk)

DOWN
1. Medic mentioned a plant to ease pain (4)
DOCK

A homophone (‘mentioned’) of DOC (medic) – dock leaves are traditionally used to ease the pain from stinging nettles although a quick check on-line seems to indicate that they don’t really work.

2. Old boys smoke out of sight (7)
OBSCURE

OBS (old boys) CURE (smoke)

3. Two monkeys looking down on others (5)
GRAND

Double definition where a ‘monkey’ is £500

4. Gold hoarded by person who believes speculator (8)
THEORIST

OR (gold) inside or ‘hoarded by’ THEIST (person who believes)

5. Century which means nothing for player’s club (6)
CASINO

C (century) AS IN (which means) O (nothing)

6. Nina’s pigs scattered while she was doing something else (2,7)
IN PASSING

An anagram (‘scattered’) of NINA’S PIGS

7. Earth covered with vegetation, others probably not? (7)
PLANETS

E (earth) inside or ‘covered by’ PLANTS (vegetation) – the definition alludes to the fact that the other planets may not have any vegetation. However, we are not sure that the surface reading works.

8. Large diver wants Spooner’s Milky Bar (5,5)
RIGHT WHALE

A Spoonerism of WHITE (milky) RAIL (bar) – you probably have to be of a ‘certain age’ to remember the ‘Milky Bar kid’.

12. Tory Howard made silly sound for driving (10)
ROADWORTHY

An anagram (‘made silly’) of TORY HOWARD

14. Rind we are mostly bagging to keep (4,5)
PEEL TOWER

PEEL (rind) WE’Re (we are) missing last letter or ‘mostly’ around or ‘bagging’ TO. A Peel Tower is a small fortified keep.

16. Concern public transport’s in mess, losing millions (8)
BUSINESS

BUS (public transport) IN mESS without or ‘losing’ m (millions)

18. Old wobbly gut or weight to shed in maturity (7)
OUTGROW

O (old) plus an anagram (‘wobbly’) of GUT OR followed by W (weight)

20. Shout “Stop,” dislodging a learner’s nice glasses (7)
CRYSTAL

CRY (shout) STALl (stop) missing or ‘dislodging’ L (learner)

21. Suit cut on the counter out of Crimplene is enormous (6)
ONESIE

The answer is hidden (‘out of’) and reversed (‘on the counter’) in crimplenE IS ENOrmous. We checked the definition of a ‘suit’ in Chambers as we weren’t happy about the answer. A suit is defined as a a number of articles made to be worn together or matching trousers or skirt plus a jacket. A ‘onesie’ though is by definition a one-piece!

23. Beginning to understand complicated game (3-2)
GET-GO

GET (to understand) GO (complicated game)

24. Stones, 3 slowing down musically (4)
GRIT

G (grand as in 3d) RIT (ritardando – slowing down in musical notation)

 

12 comments on “Independent 11,544 by Filbert”

  1. OVERPASS
    My thinking matches yours.
    You PASS when you don’t want to bid. You bid too rarely or you PASS too much—->OVERPASS.

  2. UNDER ONE’S BELT
    In a way, it means experienced, I think. More exactly ‘having in one’s possession’ but
    ‘experienced’ could be acceptable.

    ONESIE
    There is one ‘cut’ hanging loose. Not clear of its purpose. Is onesie a suit cut?
    I have no knowledge.

    PLANETS
    Though clear, it makes an odd reading as the blog points out.

    Thanks, Basilisk and B&J!

  3. OVERPASS
    Looks like a Clue-as-def as well as one Cryptic def+a def. Interesting clue.
    (I can say I agree with the blog in this regard).

  4. UNDER ONE’S BELT was odd, I agree and PLANETS was clunky but in a fun kind of way. My only gripe is RIT in GRIT because I didn’t know it and couldn’t find it. Thanks B&J and Filbert.

  5. As FrankieG says, there are other examples of one-piece suits – jump suit, boiler suit. Perhaps the defining character of a suit is that the bottom matches the top? I can’t say the nature of suits is something I have thought about much.
    Also as others have indicated UNDER ONES BELT makes more sense if you think of having experienced, rather than being experienced. I think PLANETS was my favourite.

  6. On the whole very enjoyable.
    Like others I think a ONESIE as a suit is legit in that it covers the whole body. I can’t however quite square “UNDER ONES BELT” with experienced, surely it’s “a part of one’s experience”, I can’t see how they are directly interchangeable. ROVER for dog is very dated, they all have rather grand human names now!
    THROW, DOCK, GRAND,CASINO, CRYSTAL and GRIT were my picks.
    Thanks Filbert and B&J.

  7. We got on fine with this, finding it at the easier end of Filbert’s difficulty range. Maybe it was a bit clunky in places but we didn’t notice at the time. No real favourite(s), though.
    Thanks, Filbert and B&J.

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