Financial Times 17,619 by GUY

Thanks to GUY for a great first puzzle to blog this year.

A very enjoyable puzzle. Tricky, but very doable and a good and witty range of clues. Many thanks to GUY!

[And Happy New Year to all].

 picture of the completed grid

ACROSS
1. Good attendant who’s excessively effusive (6)
GUSHER

G (good) + USHER (attendant)

4. I chip away at vanishing plutocrats in difficulty (8)
SCULPTOR

(PLUTOCR[at]S)* (*in difficulty, AT vanishing)

9. Sugar’s inside not outside this sweet (6)
NOUGAT

[s]UGA[r]’s inside; NOT outside

10. Black cat mostly subject to temple (8)
PANTHEON

PANTHE[r] (black cat, mostly) + ON (subject to)

11. Aviator, say, is French soul returning to trouble (6)
AMELIA

AME (soul, French) + AIL< (trouble, <returning)

Referring to Amelia Earhart

12. A rep’s upset, scoffed, and cut off (8)
SEPARATE

(A REP’S)* (*upset) + ATE (scoffed)

13. Conclusive difficulty (3)
NET

Double definition

14. Style from chap dismissing last point of irritating fool (6)
MANNER

MAN (chap) + NER[d] (irritating fool, dismissing last point)

17. Right about don (7)
REDRESS

RE (about) + DRESS (don)

21. And the rest His Eminence had eaten into (6)
ETCHED

ETC (and the rest) + HE’D (His Eminence had)

25. Guy drops a pen (3)
STY

ST[a]Y (guy, drops A)

26. English and US spies in equal decay (8)
EMACIATE

E (English) + (CIA (US spies) in MATE (equal, as in peer))

27. New cinema is certainly not ruddy short of spirit in US (6)
ANEMIC

(CINEMA)* (*new)

As I interpret it, we have two straight definitions: certainly not ruddy; short of spirit. ‘In US’ tells us to use American spelling.

28. A pound abandoned by elite soldiers, for example (8)
SPECIMEN

SPECI[al] MEN (elite squad, A + L (pound) abandoned)

29. Mourn unconvincing collection of books (6)
LAMENT

LAME (unconvincing) + NT (collection of books, New Testament)

30. Happily one rates boom (8)
RESONATE

(ONE RATES)* (*happily)

31. One’s screwed in credit cut (6)
CENSOR

(ONE’S)* (*screwed) in CR (credit)

DOWN
1. Info on woman embracing Romeo cop in Rouen (8)
GENDARME

GEN (info) on DAME (woman) embracing R (Romeo, NATO alphabet)

‘Cop in Rouen’ = French policeman

2. This wine if repackaged could be sure neat (8)
SAUTERNE

(SURE NEAT)* (*could be, if repackaged)

3. Who tests whirling chopper and digger (8)
EXAMINER

AXE< (chopper, <whirling) + MINER (digger)

5. County central to gutsy drink (6)
CLARET

CLARE (county, in Ireland) + [gu]T[sy] (central to)

6. Suffer little Henry being destructive (6)
LETHAL

LET (suffer) + HAL (little Henry)

7. Eg, Sweeney Todd’s unbridled wealth (3,3)
THE LAW

(WEALTH)* (*unbridled)

‘Sweeney Todd’ is Cockney rhyming slang for the UK flying squad

8. Warden found in right huff (6)
RANGER

R (right) + ANGER (huff)

12. Screen release (7)
SECRETE

Double definition

15. King’s Cross in support of sappers (3)
REX

X (cross) in support of RE (sappers, Royals Engineers)

16. Custom trick with no hint of roguery (3)
USE

[r]USE (trick, with no R (hint of roguery))

18. Individual in theatre is prehistoric (5-3)
STONE-AGE

ONE (individual) in STAGE (theatre)

19. Cold actor on a last drop of his drink (8)
CHAMPERS

C (cold) + HAM (actor) on PER (a) + [hi]S (last drop of)

20. Orator interrupting rising discourteous teacher (8)
EDUCATOR

CATO (orator) interrupting RUDE< (discourteous, <rising)

22. What could stun you about eastern riddle? (6)
TEASER

TASER (what could stun you) about E (eastern)

23. Cold spuds (6)
TATERS

Double definition

‘Taters’ is Cockney rhyming slang for cold

24. Dream is one playing under Victor (6)
VISION

IS + I (one) + ON (playing) under V (Victor, NATO alphabet)

25. Saint covering, eg, elder’s passage (6)
STREET

ST (saint) covering TREE (e.g. elder)

36 comments on “Financial Times 17,619 by GUY”

  1. Geoff Down Under

    Please explain why TATERS is cold. Collins was no help. And I don’t understand why “eg Sweeney Todd” is the law.

  2. Geoff Down Under

    Just saw your reference to rhyming slang, Oriel. Oh dear. But what does it rhyme with?

  3. Geoff Down Under

    Found it! Taters in the mould? What on earth does that mean?

  4. Geoff Down Under

    Oh dear, Sweeney Todd is rhyming slang, too. (Only just noticed.) I should read the blog more thoroughly in the first place. 🙁

  5. PostMark

    I’m somewhat confused as to who the setter actually is. Solving online, I am told that the puzzle is by Jason and yet Oriel is firmly stating Guy and, indeed, Guy does appear in one of the clues.

    TATERS is a nho Cockneyism and I have to confess neither definition of NET is one that I would use – to the extent that with -ET, I still had to reveal at the very end, wondering whether LET as hindrance/difficulty or SET as possibly conclusive might have been the answer. NOUGAT, EXAMINER and STREET were my podium – though I feel EXAMINER needs a QM at the end for the surface.

    Thanks setter and Oriel

  6. Simon S

    Thanks Guy or Jason and Oriel

    Like PostMark I was surprised that the app showed a different setter from the pdf: perhaps someone will explain.

    There is one screeching error in the puzzle. The wine is SAUTERNES (sic) and takes its name from the eponymous region in France. SAUTERNE does not exist.

  7. KVa

    SAUTERNE is in Chambers Simon.

  8. Hovis

    Simon @6. No. The wine is SAUTERNE (sometimes sauternes) but the region is Sauternes.

  9. Simon S

    You will never see SAUTERNE on a bottle or in a wine list. I’ve been to Sauternes, and have bought a fair amount over the years: the wine has the final S.

  10. PostMark

    Simon @6: I felt the same as you wrt SAUTERNE but I see it is, indeed, in Chambers thus spelled. I have only ever encountered the wine spelled with two S’s, that’s how it appears in Internet searches – and I actually have to hand the latest Wine Society List which has all the Sauternes spelled with two S’s.

  11. Roz

    Thanks for the blog, a lot of neat clues here. SCULPTOR and NOUGAT are cleverly done.
    The Sweeney famous from the 70s TV series, Dennis Waterman probably said TATERS at some point in this or in Minder.
    NET=difficulty is way down a long list in Chambers but a NET result is conclusive.

  12. Hovis

    Simon. You’re right. Although an internet search reveals several instances of “Sauterne wine”, the bottles all seem to have “Sauternes”. As others have said, it is in Chambers which, I guess, lets the setter off the hook but, maybe, Chambers is wrong.

  13. Pelham Barton

    Thanks Guy (except for 13ac) and Oriel

    13ac: I had SET here. I had to go to SOED 2007 to get “a check; a standstill; a serious setback”. These are all marked “More emphatically dead set“, but I think that means that set on its own still carries the meaning(s) given.

  14. Pelham Barton

    2dn: Collins 2023 has Sauternes as the head word, but under it “sauterne a sweet to semi-dry Californian white wine blended from several kinds of grapes”.

    I stick to my general view that fairness to setters means that they should not be expected to overrule the standard dictionaries.

  15. Simon S

    PB @ 14 I’ve checked the wikipedia page on Sauternes. Spelt thus it is solely the French sweet wine from that area; spelt without the final S it is a generic term for an American dessert wine which is made from a blend of grapes probably wider than permitted for the French version.

    So it would appear that SAUTERNES and SAUTERNE are actually different wines! (The imp in me suggests that in this instance 2D should have an indicator of American usage 😉 )

    [As an aside, the classic Sauternes Chateau d’Yqem is epiphany in a glass]

  16. Sourdough

    Hovis @12 ‘Cambers may be wrong’.
    GASP!
    Thanks, all.

  17. Sourdough

    Chambers even. Oh, dear.

  18. Timothy Beecroft

    That wasn’t one crossword. It was four crosswords stuck together (just).

    I’m not keen on such unconnected grids as this.

  19. FrankieG

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Sauternes – with a capital “S”
    Proper noun – A region of France known for producing dessert wines.
    Noun – Sauternes (plural Sauternes) – A wine produced in Sauternes, such as the prestigious Château d’Yquem.
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sauterne – with a lower case “s”
    Etymology – An intentional misspelling by American vintners of the name of the famed French wine region Sauternes and the wines they produce.
    Noun – sauterne (countable and uncountable, plural sauternes) – (US) A wine imitating those of Sauternes.

  20. FrankieG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sweeney ‘…was developed from a one-off TV drama entitled Regan which served as the pilot episode for the series. … a 90-minute television film written by Ian Kennedy Martin for the Thames Television anthology series Armchair Cinema … in 1974.
    A golden anniversary.

  21. FrankieG

    I parsed MANNER with NERk rather than NERd. I didn’t like NET either.

  22. FrankieG

    Nice to see an !rish county in CLARET making a refreshing change from Beds, Berks, Bucks, Staffs, Wilts, &c.
    And to spot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Younger ‘noted orator’ in EDUCATOR, crossing with grandad
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_the_Elder ‘also known as Cato the CENSOR’
    Thanks J/G & O

  23. Martyn

    Thanks to the setter (Guy or Jason, or perhaps someone else)

    Some nice clues, but a few too many clues relied on obscure words or usages for my liking (including the ever-obscure Cockey slang). For example, I was all ready to show solidarity with Simon S on SAUTERNE, to find that it is an obscure US wine. I think my favourites were covered, but I thought NOUGAT, REDRESS, STY, LAMENT and LETHAL all had nice surfaces

    Thanks to the mystery setter and to Oriel for the blog

  24. Widdersbel

    It did cross my mind that SAUTERNE should have a final S but there wasn’t space for one in the grid so that resolved the conundrum for me and I didn’t dwell on it. That’s one for the AOC police to worry about.

    A couple of stylistic quirks make me think this is more likely to be Jason than Guy, but I wouldn’t put money on that – I’m not that good at identifying setters’ idiosyncracies. It was an enjoyable puzzle either way, so thanks to whoever deserves the credit. I had similar favourites to Martyn. Thanks also to Oriel for the blog.

  25. Widdersbel

    Btw, Sweeny Todd = Flying Squad is unimpeachable but I’m dubious about the claimed rhyming slang origin of TATERS meaning cold. Sounds implausible to me and seems to be yet another one of those factoids that has become established as truth through repetition on the internet.

  26. Mark_A

    I’ve still not seen the solution for 17,616 (the one after the xmas jumbo one).

    This one being delayed by a week too?
    (still not sure why this is a thing anymore given there’s no prizes now)

  27. Simon S

    TATERS for cold was a well-known expression in NW England by the 70s/80s, so doubt it was CRS then.

  28. Pelham Barton

    Timothy@18: I share your distaste for poorly connected grids.

    13ac: I should clarify my own comment, coincidentally number 13. While solving, I had a vague thought that SET could equal setback. As always, I only looked in the dictionaries afterwards.

    2dn: Thanks particularly to Simon@15 for the information on this one. I went to a local shop this morning, which had a modest collection of wines, and had a reasonably thorough look round them. I did not see any bottles labelled “Sauterne”, but I did not see any labelled “Sauternes” either.

    23dn: All the current dictionaries that I routinely check give tater as slang for potato only. However, The Slang Thesaurus by Jonathon Green, dated 1986, gives us “potatoes in the mould (rhy. sl.), taters” as terms related to cold weather. This fits with Simon@27. It should be remembered that by no means all rhyming slang is Cockney in origin.

  29. Tony Santucci

    Thanks Guy. I found this a mixed bag, liking clues such as NOUGAT, AMELIA, STY, and EDUCATOR but failing on clues such as NET, THE LAW, CENSOR, and CHAMPERS. Thanks Oriel for the blog.

  30. Petert

    So 23 down is cold potato, while 13 across is a bit of a hot potato?

  31. Simon S

    Chambers Slang Dictionary also gives “taters (in the mould)” as a euphemism for cold.

  32. Widdersbel

    Interesting. Well, Green and Chambers seem like a couple of pretty good sources so maybe it is legit after all.

  33. Widdersbel

    Should add, I was familiar with taters meaning cold, it was only the origin of the usage I was questioning – I’m always naturally sceptical of any poorly attested claims of rhyming slang as the origin of a term (likewise acronyms), especially when it’s such an odd phrase as “potatoes in the mould”. Do people actually say that? What on earth does it mean?

  34. Roz

    It means potatoes in the ground rather than being cooked ?? I am very sceptical about the whole thing but I have heard TATERS=cold many times .

  35. ricky

    4. I chip away at vanishing plutocrats in difficulty (8) SCULPTOR (PLUTOCR[at]S)* (*in difficulty, AT vanishing)

    Why add “in difficulty” to the clue
    Why not just make the clue “I chip away at vanishing plutocrats”

    Please explain and thanks

  36. Cellomaniac

    ricky@35, “in difficulty” is needed as the anagram indicator. “I chip away” is the definition, so its can’t also be the anagram indicator. I hope that helps.

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