A fun solve with a variety of general knowledge references. Favourites were 1ac, 11ac, 17ac, 25ac, and 5dn. Thanks to Yank
ACROSS | ||
1 | TUPELO |
Stripped of crown, old King put back in King’s birthplace (6)
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definition: Elvis Presley, known as the ‘King’ of Rock ‘n’ Roll, was born in Tupelo Mississippi
[C]-OLE (as in ‘old King Cole’) without the first letter/”crown”, plus PUT (from surface); all reversed/”back” |
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4 | SWOOSHES |
Women covering courts to show sports logos (8)
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definition refers to the Nike (sports brand) ‘swoosh’ logo
SHES (“Women”, as ‘she’=woman) around WOOS=”courts” |
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9 | ELAND |
Horny beast seen in much of Auld Sod (5)
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definition: a type of antelope
“much” / most letters of [Ir]-ELAND Auld Sod is a term that can refer to Ireland |
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10 | SETS FORTH |
Proposes factions come before Yank’s holiday in report (4,5)
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SETS=”factions”, plus FORTH which sounds like (“in report”) ‘fourth’, as in ‘Fourth of July’=”Yank’s holiday” | ||
11 | ABOVE ZERO |
Positive on location of closing parenthesis? (5,4)
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on a computer keyboard layout, the “closing parenthesis” ) symbol can be accessed with the SHIFT key + the ‘0’/zero key, and is labelled above and on the same key as the digit ‘0’ | ||
12 | OSCAR |
It arrives after November and it’s 13½ inches tall (5)
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double definition: Oscar (for the letter O) comes after November for (N) in the NATO alphabet; and at the Oscars awards for film an Oscar statuette is 13.5in tall | ||
13 | EXASPERATION |
Worry former partner with messy separation (12)
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EX=”former partner” + anagram/”messy” of (separation)* | ||
17 | STEAK TARTARE |
Interest expressed by two sailors at sea, shelled fare (5,7)
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STEAK sounds like (“expressed”): ‘stake’=”Interest”, as in to have a stake/interest in something
…plus TAR and TAR=”two sailors”, plus [s]-E-[a] “shelled” with its outer letters removed |
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20 | AMITY |
Coolidge escapes catastrophe for peace (5)
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Cal (Calvin Coolidge, US president) removed from [Cal]-AMITY=”catastrophe” | ||
21 | PTARMIGAN |
Penny, a migrant, healed bird (9)
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P (Penny) + anagram/”healed” of (a migrant)* | ||
23 | SCUBA DIVE |
Seek treasure perhaps in small island, shady place (5,4)
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S (small) + CUBA=”island” + DIVE=”shady place” (with “shady” as in ‘disreputable’) | ||
24 | LLANO |
Section of Villanova, home to vaqueros (5)
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definition: LLANO means a plain (area of flatland), where livestock herders (vaqueros) might work
hidden in [Vi]-LLANO-[va] |
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25 | TEETHING |
Chewing on something hard: golf ball? (8)
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a golf ball is a thing that goes on a tee, a TEE THING | ||
26 | BRIDGE |
Game canine evacuated, cutting cheese (6)
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D-[o]-G=”canine” evacuated of its inner letter, cutting into BRIE=”cheese” | ||
DOWN | ||
1 | TEENAGER |
Green tea brewed for Joan of Arc when executed? (8)
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anagram/”brewed” of (Green tea)* | ||
2 | PIANO BAR |
Where Rick played softly, bit of solid gold (5,3)
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definition: reference to the bar owned by Rick in the film Casablanca [wiki]
PIANO=”softly” + BAR=”bit of solid gold” |
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3 | LODGE |
Removing cap, splash in mud where Oddfellows gather (5)
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definition: the Oddfellows are a fraternal order [wiki] who gather in lodges
[P]-LODGE=”splash in mud”, with its first letter/”cap” removed |
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5 | WITHOUT A TRACE |
Forgoing competition, saving time, leaving no evidence (7,1,5)
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WITHOUT A RACE=”Forgoing competition”, around/”saving” T for “time” | ||
6 | OFF-COLOUR |
Blue, rotten apricot or salmon? (3-6)
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OFF-COLOUR can mean indecent/obscene i.e. “Blue”
OFF=”rotten” + COLOUR=”apricot or salmon” |
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7 | HORACE |
Odist’s dance at church (6)
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definition: a Roman poet
HORA is a traditional folk “dance” + CE (Church of England) |
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8 | SPHERE |
Cleo’s killer beheaded on this spot in field (6)
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[a]-SP=Cleopatra’s “killer” without its first letter (“beheaded”) + HERE=”on this spot” | ||
10 | SMEAR CAMPAIGN |
Fixing craps game, I’m an employer of dirty tricks (5,8)
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anagram/”Fixing” of (craps game I’m an)* | ||
14 | PETTY CASH |
Not much money for pair of singers (5,4)
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Tom PETTY and Johnny CASH are a pair of singers | ||
15 | GANGLAND |
Underworld hack rejected secretive body part (8)
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NAG=”hack” (slang terms for a horse) reversed/”rejected”; plus GLAND=a body part that secretes (is “secretive”) | ||
16 | BEANPOLE |
Figuratively, Olive Oyl, head Bialystok resident? (8)
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Olive Oyl is a cartoon character who is tall and thin
BEAN=”head” + POLE=resident of Bialystok in Poland |
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18 | BASSET |
Operatic villain, maybe little green man, one with big ears (6)
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definition: BASSET hounds have big ears
BASS=a voice often used for an “Operatic villain, maybe” + ET (extra-terrestrial, “little green man”) |
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19 | DISUSE |
Doctor issued cause of atrophy (6)
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anagram (“Doctor” as in to tamper with a document) of (issued)* | ||
22 | MILER |
Athlete coming from rear in preliminaries (5)
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definition: a runner of a mile race
hidden inside and reversed (coming from rear in): [p]-RELIM-[inaries] |
Thanks Yank and manehi
There were some I hadn’t heard of (HORA for the dance, and SWOOSHES, for instance), and others I didn’t parse – TUPELO, ELAND, and ABOVE ZERO (clever, in fact).
Shouldn’t 2d be Sam rather than Rick?
A bit heavy on the obscure GK for my taste (why Bialystok for example, whose only claim to fame seems to have been to bid unsuccessfully for the role of European Capital of Culture in 2010, when a less obscure city would have served?), and a few odd clues (bass for operatic villain; the surface of BEANPOLE even with a better known city) but plenty of fun in between. GANGLAND, ABOVE ZERO (hidden in plain sight as I do these on my laptop) and OSCAR were my favourites. Scratched my head at PIANO BAR; it was Rick’s bar, but Sam played the piano (“Play it Sam. You played it for her, now play it for me.” and not the usually attributed “Play it again, Sam.”) Thanks Yank and manehi.
Interesting… Some lovely clues with some clever misdirections, although I found some of the definitions rather allusive. Looking forward to seeing more of Yank so I can get on his (?) wavelength.
And it’s no wonder I couldn’t parse ABOVE ZERO… my (French) AZERTY keyboard has it below the degree symbol (°).
This puzzle brought me a lot of enjoyment too – once I got to the down clues (!). I only had one (incorrect) answer, 24a VILLA, for the acrosses, but then I started to hit pay dirt once I started on the downs. The long ones at 5d WITHOUT A TRACE and 10d SMEAR CAMPAIGN were invaluable for providing the crossers that unlocked the whole puzzle for me. 23a SCUBA DIVE was great – especially for the “shady place”, and I also loved 14d PETTY CASH. Many thanks to Yank and manehi.
Well, I could only think of Max Bialystok (The Producers) so wasted a lot of time on 16d before the great public good that is Google came to my help. This was very tough but, as is often the case, perfectly do-able once you looked back, leaving you wondering why you struggled so much. I do not have any gripes at all so sorry not to be able to join the whingers on the Guardian forum. Thanks very much, Yank (and manehi) that was a great workout.
I suppose we have to accept that the setter’s name tells us there will be lots of unannounced Americanisms but I am still very uncomfortable with many of them, partly through unfamiliarity (“Auld Sod”? “Swoosh”?) and partly because there were a lot of “two steps removed” clues (think of a synonym and do something with it e.g. Cleo -> Cleopatra -> asp, Coolidge -> Calvin -> Cal, Holiday -> Fourth of July -> Fourth).
I don’t see what scuba diving has to do with treasure hunting, any more than walking, caving or looking at old maps does. One might dive for treasure, and a bus might be red. But “bus” for “red” is not a good definition, even with a “perhaps” to excuse it.
For Rick as a player in Casablanca, perhaps the setter was referring to his chess games and trying to mislead us with unnecessary complication?
Thanks Manehi, and Yank but I think the editor really should’ve clamped down on this one.
Thanks for the blog and clear explanations manehi. I could only complete a few and gave up in “exasperation” when it was apparently a synonym for worry.
The surprise for me this morning was that my last three in were the ones in retrospect I considered the most impressive. Take a bow the two sailors in STEAK TARTARE and the two singers in PETTY CASH. Both of these last two, Tom and Johnny, are favourites of mine. And last one in TEETHING made my own gnashers glint, having just watched Rory McIlroy win The Players at Sawgrass for the second time bang on St Patrick’s Day, remarkably. I’m wondering whether 14 down has ever been clued in that way before. Music to my ears, anyway…
paul @2, I think Bialystock was an attempt to misdirect by Yank with “head Bialystock” giving the first letter of BEANPOLE, which it didn’t as “Bialystock resident” gave the POLE bit. I guess he could have used any Polish town starting with the letter B, including Babimost, Baborów, Baranów Sandomierski, Barcin,…… Byczyna and all the rest.
I have to say I’ve not been totally impressed by Yank so far, and this didn’t go far in changing that opinion.
“What are you doing for the Fourth?” / “Happy 4th!” Common enough in that form here that the “of July” isn’t always needed. And Coolidge was known as Silent Cal. But yeah, you were less likely to have known these things if you weren’t American. The Nike swoosh, on the other hand, is a global trademark for a global brand, and I think you’ll find if you Google the word from wherever you are, you’ll get nothing but Nike.
I hadn’t heard Auld Sod before for Ireland.
Very tough and had to reveal a couple. I liked PETTY CASH, STEAK TARTARE, TEETHING (well done Rory) and BEANPOLE.
Ta Yank & manehi.
Lots to like including TEETHING, SMEAR CAMPAIGN and PTARMIGAN – the name of our fictitious child we used to call out for at middle-class festivals like Wilderness
Cheers M&Y
Muffin @1: the hora is danced in various forms throughout Eastern and Southeastern Europe, but it’s best known in English-speaking countries for being traditional at Jewish weddings. Hava nagilah, hava nagilah….
(…and again, America’s larger and more visible Jewish community makes that one easier for us.)
I enjoyed this and I like the fact that setters for the Guardian feel they can bend the rules a bit (twice-removed synonyms and Paul’s dodgy homophones for example).
I very much enjoyed this. My only problem was thinking “softly” just gave P, and wondering where the IANO came from. This may be a case where crossword experience wasn’t a help.
Thanks to Yank and manehi.
Paul @2: Bialystok is also the birthplace of Ludovik Zamenhof, creator of Esperanto.
DuncT@15: I had the same reaction.
JOFT@6: I agree with most of what you say, however “Auld Sod” is sometimes heard in Ireland.
Coolidge had to be either Rita or Calvin, but it didn’t occur to me to abbreviate the name, so I failed on that one. It does give me an opening for a oft-related anecdote in which Coolidge was approached by someone at a dinner party who said “I have a bet that I can get more than three words out of you”, to which he replied “You lose”.
Thanks Yank and manehi: this took me a long time to get started, but it was good fun in spite of my many GK lapses. Never heard of the HORA, didn’t know Auld Sod = Ireland, and thought it might have been Martin Luther King not Elvis who was born in TUPELO (I should have looked it up, as I did for Oscar’s measurements) . I wasted ages looking for something like mussels, lobster or nuts for the “shelled fare” that turned out to be STEAK TARTARE. Just about remembered Cal Coolidge and loved the two singers, and the TEE THING made me smile. The clang when the penny dropped for ABOVE ZERO was pretty loud – I solve on a phone, so I didn’t have the thing staring me in the face.
I had better not comment on this puzzle.
Interesting mix of satisfying and frustrating clues.
Yank has a pleasing knack for smooth surfaces with anagrammed clues – such as TEENAGER, SMEAR CAMPAIGN and PTARMIGAN.
I often feel for non-Brit solvers struggling with parochial GK, so I don’t mind being in their situation for once, but it did mean a lot of semi-parsed answers. Hadn’t a clue where Elvis was born: lucky guess! Flipped a coin for which Coolidge, Rita or Calvin – lucky again. The only Bialystok I know is the great impresario, Max.
I’m surprised that an American setter got the Casablanca reference wrong: as any fule kno, Sam played the piano there. Rick owned the place (clue is in the name: Rick’s Café Americain).
Big thanks to manehi for all the explanations, and thank you Yank for the challenge.
Yes, entertaining puzzle with a few dnks/forgottens: swooshing, auld sod, that J of A was so young,, and that Ms Oyl was tall and lean. Fun, ta both.
Of course it was Sam who played, not Rick. Amazing what one can not notice (like that gorilla on the soccer pitch …)
I thought the Nike logo was a tick.
I enjoyed this. Struggled with a couple of answers, but having seen them all explained here they were all fair enough. I’m not sure if it’s a cultural thing or an age thing but I thought SWOOSHES was one of the easier ones to get. PETTY CASH is also great I think. I dunno if Yank is actually American, but I certainly enjoy the references. Makes a pleasant change from cricket terminology and English county towns.
Too many obscure references, often combined in a single clue, for this puzzle to be totally enjoyable.
Eg: 1 across : King = Elvis + Knowing his birthplace.
Great for the ones where my GK coincided with the setter though so my favourite clue was Petty Cash.
Thanks all
Gave up. Agree with Jack@6 and Anna@19.
Anyone else find that the presentation/appearance/function has changed on their device this morning? Not pleased.
Re 18d BASS for operatic villain is wrong. There are plenty of operatic bass parts which are not baddies.
Well I finished it but without parsing ELAND or ABOVE ZERO (should have looked down on my keypad). Some ‘GK’ that I didn’t know and the dictionaries say that (p)LODGE is a Geordie word. I liked the anagrams for EXASPERATION and SMEAR CAMPAIGN, the secretive body part in GANGLAND, and the BASSET with long ears. I don’t understand what ‘Game canine evacuated, cutting cheese’ means however.
Thanks Yank and manehi.
Just to weigh in on the “piano bar” discussion, isn’t it the kind of discrete corner of a hotel lobby for late night cocktails etc? Rick’s Bar was a full-on nightclub and casino, with a complete musical band and singer.
I had all the USGK for this (so King = Elvis > TUPELO was a flying start) but had to Google Bialistok, which I, like some others here, knew only as Zero Mostel’s character in ‘The Producers’. (I was surprised when a recent commenter seemed to regard Googling a reference as ‘cheating’ and incurring a DNF – would looking up a word in Chambers be cheating?) Close parenthesis. I am afraid I cannot fathom the hostility to the puzzle expressed by some here and reportedly on the G thread – it all seemed entirely above board and enjoyably playful to me.
Pete HA3@26: Yes, it looks different – and not better – in my browser. The anagram helper is a distinct step backwards, in particular.
My thinking was a bit too literal for some of this, making it a tough solve. I had to give up on the last one
It was 1ac that defeated me – I knew Atlanta as the birthplace of Martin Luther King, but I’ve never heard of Tupelo, so even if I’d realised it was an Elvis reference and parsed it correctly, I would still not have been able to get it as I wouldn’t have been confident that Tupelo was a placename.
I was happier with “swooshes”, as that is gettable from the cryptic and clearly a word, even if I’ve no idea why “swooshes” means sports logos.
Some quibbled about “basset” at 18d, but no complaints from me, the allusions fall into place when you work it out, likewise “amity” for 20ac.
The other obscure (for me) general knowledge wasn’t really needed to solve oscar at 12ac, it was more confirmatory.
So, while I would be happier if 1ac had been a commonly used, or at least a commonly known, word, the rest was all fair game.
18D
Agree with OffSpinner @27 – I’d say the Queen of the Night was pretty villainous!
I really enjoyed this, it was nice to have a wider range of GK.
Plodge was new to me, I went through 26 ?lodge variants in my head and decided I’d wait for 225 to find out which it was. For 11a I got a bit of exercise going upstairs to check my laptop keyboard as the tablet soft keyboard is different. 7 down got a lot easier when I realised Odist wasn’t a follower of Odin and stopped trying to fit Norse/Viking into the answer.
Thanks Yank and manehi.
Andrew @ 32 Van Morrison’s “Tupelo Honey” is a pretty well-known album (to those of a certain age anyway!)
A curate’s egg for me. PETTY CASH was great but 2d just seems to be an error.
Thanks Yank and manehi
Andrew @32 Maybe you aren’t old enough to remember Bobbie Gentry’s ‘Ode to Billy Joe’, but TUPELO was, in the final stanza, where the singer’s brother bought a store having married Becky Thompson. I realise that maybe takes USGK into the realm of arcana; however, during the long university vacation in 1969 I used to drive a laundry van round Glasgow. singing it, tunelessly I’m sure, and it has stuck. That (the driving, not the singing) paid for me to go to the Antibes jazz festival.
Agree with JofT@6 and other commentators about the lack of precision in a few clues. Yank seems to be showing us the difference between taking advantage and taking liberties.
…and there’s this Tupelo earworm
I’m a little surprised that the Nike “swoosh” isn’t better known in the UK. Perhaps the name for it isn’t as well known, but do you not often see the curvy logo thing? I’m less surprised that “Cal” for Coolidge was a bit much, though he is legitimately known as “Silent Cal.” Didn’t parse ELAND, ABOVE ZERO, or TEETHING.
I may have first heard of TUPELO from the Nick Cave song (and was expecting either Martin Luther King or something Arthurian, but got it once the T and P were in). Speaking of TP or not: Robi@28, “cutting the cheese” is a term for passing gas, so I think the surface may refer to some icky sequelae to a dog eating some game that it has caught.
As Gallus@24 says, a nice change for me from cricket and singers like Lulu (edit: and obscure plants, which would apparently be another way to define tupelo), though as ever I take the point that it is a British newspaper.
Oh and I like the new crossword layout–though I was fooled for a moment to thinking that I could type letters directly into the anagram finder, which would’ve been even nicer.
Thanks Yank and manehi!
Andrew@26: The Nike logo is known as the “swoosh”, at least among those who know that there is, in fact, a name for the Nike logo. One person’s GK is another person’s obscurity, as always.
Conversely, only in googling for the names of operatic villains other than Iago did I learn that the part of the villain is often sung by a bass.
A couple of weeks or so ago I had trouble because of changes which made it almost impossible to fill the grid on my phone. One suggestion was that I should try a browser other than Firefox which worked fine for everything else.
I switched to Chrome.
Today that too has changed in someway which makes trying to fill the grid almost impossible.
Now my wife’s tablet has the same problem.
I was surprised to see that no one else has commented.
It may just be us but as this crossword is the only place where we have an issue, maybe its time to move on.
Anna @19 you can’t beat a good paradox 🙂
matt w @40
I recognise the Nike logo, but I had no idea it had a name. It’s quite descriptive, though.
On Calvin Coolidge, I remembered this:
Dorothy Parker, upon learning that Coolidge had died, reportedly remarked, “How can they tell?”
muffin @44: brilliant! 🤣
Thanks for the blog , really good set of clues showing a lot of imagination . GANGLAND my favourite for secretive .
Two minor quibbles , EX ASPERATION is barely an anagram , the clue in the paper for HORACE has () instead of (6) , I spent too long wondering how the null set was involved , nil desperandum .
Ace@41, I don’t think the term swoosh is obscure in the U.K. I’ve seen it used in the business pages on the Guardian and have heard it spoken, as ever one person’s general knowledge is another’s obscurity.
Bit of a struggle and did not parse ABOVE ZERO, having used pen and paper.
I think the editor might have sent Yank back for another think re SCUBA DIVE.
Scuba divers no more look for treasure than sharks eat people. It happens, but much much more rarely than you think. We’re taught to take nothing but photos. And most underwater treasure hunting is done by ROV or maybe fixed line professionals.
Not wild about BASS as operatic villain either.
Thanks matt w @40; I didn’t know the expression which seems to be North American, viz Wiktionary for cut the cheese: (Canada, US, euphemistic, idiomatic, slang) To fart loudly.
[Douglas Adams and John Lloyd write a couple of books called The meaning of Liff, based on the pretext that there are placenames hanging about that could usefully be applied to other concepts. This is one of my favourites, suggested by Robi @49:
Berepper (n.)
The irrevocable and sturdy fart released in the presence of royalty, which sounds quite like a small motorbike passing by (but not enough to be confused with one).]
Thanks Yank for an ideal blend of creativity and challenge. I had many favourites including TUPELO, SWOOSHES, SCUBA DIVE, HORACE, SPHERE, SMEAR CAMPAIGN, and MILER. I missed OSCAR (note to self: memorize NATO alphabet) and couldn’t parse ABOVE ZERO. I agree with Roz @ 46 on the anagram fodder in EXASPERATION. I also flagged PETTY CASH with its ‘definition FOR wordplay’ when ‘definition FROM wordplay’ would have been more precise. Thanks manehi for the blog.
TripleJumper @48: I think the word ‘perhaps’ justifies ‘seek treasure’ in SCUBA DIVE.
Thanks TimC@9. I can see your thinking. But any city would have worked just as well with ‘head’ for a misdirection wouldn’t it? There is no crosser to give the ‘B’.
I agree with JOFT@6 and others. But, in addition, 11ac would be better without “on”; 13ac exasperation is not worry; 25ac TEETHING – you may chew on something hard, but it is not a definition of teething; 5d WITHOUT A RACE is not forgoing competition.
However colour was not color, so we should be grateful for that.
Thanks manehi and Yank
Ah, Max Bialystok, “King of Broadway“. I too went that route. My favorite movie of all time. Many thanks Yank and manehi.
Plodge is my new favourite word : )
(And I have just discovered my Edge dictionary is set to US English – appropriate for this setter perhaps.)
The fact that so many solvers appear to blithely wave through ‘operatic villain’ = BASS is depressing. It is, as another poster has said, wrong. Not only is it not supported by the dictionary, it is an absurd liberty based on a general impression Yank has decided we should all know about. No robust editor with his or eye on the ball would ever let this be published. Make of that what you will.
6down. Being ‘Off colour’ is feeling ‘down’ / ‘sad’/‘depressed’.
Feeling blue is to be off colour, nothing to do with being obscene in this instance.
6down. Being ‘Off colour’ is feeling ‘down’ / ‘sad’/‘depressed’.
Feeling blue is to be off colour, nothing to do with being obscene in this instance.
@58 and 59 (how did you do that?)
Have you never heard an off colour story or joke?
As an operatic bass myself, I ought to take exception to the lazy stereotyping of us as villains. There are plenty of bass parts that are not villainous, and not a few evil tenors too.
Hugo @61: Isn’t there an operatic trope (probably as accurate as the one about the bass being a villain) that the bass spends act 2 comforting the soprano for what the tenor did to her in act 1? Hardly villainous!
Very enjoyable solve (with the exception of BASSET; just didn’t work for me…).
Like Pete HA3 and Ace, I find that the new user interface in the browser is worse than the old. For me, the most annoying bit is that I can’t use the tab key to move from one clue to the next, which I have always found to be a very convenient way to navigate through the puzzle.
I didn’t take to this but im glad others enjoyed it. Others have said these too but I thought Coolidge for subtracting Cal was overworked, Rick didn’t play in the bar, basses don’t have to be villains, Bialystock was just a strange way to indicate Polish, not keen on canine evacuated=dg (and it’s not as if it contributed to an elegant surface).
I liked Ptarmigan and Gangland though!
Robi@28
“Game canine evacuated, cutting cheese’ makes sense to anyone familiar with the phrase being used as a euphemism for the passing of a particularly smelly fart.
Could commenters wishing to discuss or complain about the changing interface between their phones/tablets/whatever and the G crossword at least put their comments in square brackets as being unrelated to the specifics of the crossword under discussion?
I thoroughly enjoyed that. Much more so than yesterday. I really liked the fact that I had to go to wikipedia to find out about Elvis, Cleopatra, Coolidge and the oddfellows. Having done so, I still couldn’t parse TUPELO or LODGE, but hey ho, I bunged ’em in.
I chucked in PIANO MAN, rather than BAR because I couldn’t think of any Rick who played. I don’t think that the clue works because the bar is called ‘Rick’s’ and it isn’t a piano bar, whatever that is.
I know that you all like GANGLAND, and I do too, but for the ‘shady place’. You could clue it without ‘secretive’ so, for me, the brilliant misdirection is wasted.
I am glad to have more or less fudged it. I needed some judicious cheating, but mostly hooray for puzzles that increase my general knowledge. Also I’m jealous of Balfour @37.
Roberto@68 , are you a bit mixed up for GANGLAND ? ” shady place ” is from SCUBA DIVE and the secretive is needed to define the gland properly .
Thank you Roz @69. I am confused. How right you are. What a clear way you have of putting things.
Still ‘underworld’ is a nice alternative to ‘gangland’. A gland is a body part. For me the clue works without it. I am probably also wrong about that.
Very easy to get mixed up but you will soon get used to this .
A gland is an example of a body part and setters usually indicate a definition by example in some way , Yank has used the idea of secrete to define the gland precisely , a bit technical .
There is no right or wrong and only one actual rule – The setter sets and we try to solve – everything else is opinion .
This was a classic example of Google being your friend. I think the challenge is understanding the clue, not always having the GK. So for 1ac I realised it was probably Elvis related and googled where he was born. Then I could see from the clue that it made sense and that it was right. To me that is the same as how you often get an answer anyway – the word pops into your head and you then use the clue’s structure to confirm. I also revealed ptarmigan once I had all the down clues and it was obviously an anagram and a word I didn’t know so for me it just wasn’t worth struggling. I will have it stored away for next time it comes up, or if I ever go to a middle class festival.
[Roberto @68 – Yes, that year Miles was playing with his new band with Shorter playing mainly soprano, as I remember, and Chick Corea on electric piano with Dave Holland and Jack de Johnette. I was determined to see Miles live at least once. That was the once.]
[Now I am very jealous. What a thing to have done.]
I find it very interesting to see what other people find obscure in these puzzles. As an American-born New Zealander who has spent a bit of time in the UK but not all that much, I found this pretty easy-going.
JinNZ @ 75
“obscure” should always be accompanied by “to me”.
It’s a declaration of personal (lack of) knowledge, and is just shorthand for “I didn’t know it”.
Well, OBVIOUSLY the first fact one would think about with regard to Joan of Arc would be that she was a teenager. I imagine she also had two knees, and all sorts of other non relevant information.
Scuba dive =seek treasure?
Chewing =teething?
Operatic villain=bass?
Where Rick played?
Calvin Coolidge =Cal?
Feeling 13 across!
Soundly beaten by this one. Not even close to finishing it.
With you Hazel@77. Those were my “picks” too. 🙂
[I see that the print option’s gone atm from the G’s puzzles. This means that I have to take a screenshot and reduce contrast to avoid using all my black printer ink so that I can take the puzzle to the pub or to bed. I wonder if it’s meant to make people buy the paper?]
This would have defeated us soundly if not for Mrs. E’s brilliance.
Thanks all.
You can still access the print version with a direct URL (for now):
https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/cryptic/29645/print
Thanks mpedant.
[For those who haven’t seen it, there is now a comment on the page from the Guardian Web team regarding the new presentation, including some information about printing.]
[Sorry that the query about the new layout wasn’t specifically related to the clues or solutions for the day’s puzzle.]
[I can also confirm, in square brackets, that I have never driven a laundry van round Glasgow or attended the Antibes jazz festival.]
Re 9a ELAND, Auld Sod is used in Scotland as well. I took the subtraction to be (hom)eland, as that is what it means.
I especially liked the deceptive use of “secretive” to describe the body part at 15a GANGLAND, so unlike some other commenters I didn’t find it superfluous. That and 11a ABOVE ZERO were my favourites in a very enjoyable puzzle.
Thanks, Yank and manehi for the fun.
[poc@83 – where exactly can the info be found? I’ve looked at the Guardian crossword page but the only thing I can find about printing is 15 years old!]
I printed today’s crossword from the pdf – unfortunately this included the answers to Yank’s crossword, which I hadn’t finished. Saw the answer to 1A before I could stop myself 🙄
Biggest complaint – exasperation doesn’t mean worry.
Tamarix@86. I wondered where the tech team’s comments were too. I found them on today’s (19 Mar) crossword (Brummie) in the comments below the puzzle. There seems to be quite a thread going, which I haven’t read through yet.
Pete.
Thanks PeteHA3, I’ll take a look once I’ve finished Brummie’s.
Balfour@30. “…a recent commenter seemed to regard Googling a reference as ‘cheating’ ” I missed that comment to which you refer. My own take on this is that I prefer not to look things up, and by my own rules I consider that I have failed to complete if I do. For example, I didn’t look up TUPELO as the wordplay and crossers were sufficient; similarly for OSCAR, I didn’t check how high the statuette is. I too had no idea about Coolidge=Calvin=CAL, but once I’d got the crossers _ _ I _ Y it had to be (CAL)AMITY, and on we go.
I started this Tuesday and had four or five goes then, and another two or three today before finishing, so up to half a dozen solved per session. I call that tough going. But despite not fully parsing everything, I was very pleased to have got every light correctly filled in without using anything that was not already in my head.
If I had a “do not attempt” list, I reckon Yank would be on it. But I don’t, and I’m grateful for the challenge.
Tamarix@86, exactly!! I wondered why no one pointed it out till you did. Exasperation is extreme, hair pulling irritation.
Very enjoyable. A few guesses but managed to parse most of them. Just here to check on a couple which were more after a fashion.
Particularly liked 21a PTARMIGAN, 25a TEETHING, and 16d BEANPOLE. Thanks Yank and Manheim.
Completed the Right side, but missed many on the Left
TEETHING very funny
Must have tried every possible arrangement of “Green tea”…except TEENAGER. Just last night I watched Cecil B. DeMille’s epic silent “Joan the Woman” from 1916. Worth a look