Independent 8,363 by Tyrus (Saturday Prize Puzzle, 03/08/13)

If this post is a little on the late side, I’m fairly sure anyone who has tried to solve the puzzle will forgive me.

This was what one can only describe as hopelessly difficult, even for a reasonably seasoned solver. After a week of staring at a largely empty grid, the only way there’s going to be a post at all today is if I brew some strong coffee, fire up PeeDee’s excellent tool and hope for the best.

Needless to say, a handful have evaded my explanations.

Across
9 PRONE Given backing on Tyneside (5)
PRO + North East. Think “given to” or “prone to” in the sense of having a tendency to behave in a particular way
10 ILL NATURE True in all weathers (though it’s never sunny) (3,6)
(TRUE IN ALL)* with “weathers” as the anagrind, which is new to me but makes for a nice surface reading
11 EXMOUTH Old feature of English resort (7)
EX MOUTH, in Devon. Your blogger was born in Devon but left at such a young age that I only know of Exmouth from family trips several years later
12 ANTHOID Design I had not like a flower (7)
(I HAD NOT)*
13 SANSERIF Idiot leaving church rinses face in font (8)
(RINSES FA[ce])*. Interesting. It looks like “idiot” is serving as an anagrind, while “leaving church” means to remove the C and the E, and SANSERIF is considered to be a font, which I’m not entirely sure about since it’s more of a broad style of fonts. The church/font misdirection is very nice though
15 CLUEDO Black Death at its outset (6)
Absolutely stumped here. I’m sensing an &lit though
17 ALBAN Recycling stock, this martyr (5)
Stumped again. Obviously a reference to St. Alban 
20 KIM Pointless to just glance through novel (3)
[s]KIM, a novel by Kipling I believe
21 OONTS Camels ugly? Not so (5)
(OONTS)*. A fairly obscure word, but with four checked letters out of five one need not complain
23 OSWALD Killer revolutionary breaking party rules (6)
(LAWS in DO)<. Reference to Lee Harvey Oswald
24 HEIMLICH Force to abandon mile-high bonking – caught interrupting so-called emergency procedure (8)
Caught in (MILE HI[g]H*). No way did I get this, but I like it. “Bonking” as an anagrind, force as in G force, and what sounds like a bit of a Carry On moment on board a 747
29 TYPEBAR Swapping party – be back in for key attachment (7)
TYPEBAR*. “Swapping” as an anagrind this time, and an unfamiliar word for me at least
30 SIMPSON Flipping Cameron is disciple of Maggie? Possibly (7)
No idea. Reference to Maggie Simpson
31 EPICUREAN Menu defaced, I start to eat crap? Unlikely! (9)
([m]ENU + I + E[at] + CRAP)*
32 NANCY No Man City in Europe (5)
double definition
Down
1 UPSETS Leading TV star’s initial troubles (6)
UP + SET + S[tar]
2 NORMAN Invader right to occupy island, said writer (6)
Right in NO MAN. Reference to John Donne’s famous claim that “No man is an island”. Donne obviously wasn’t taken to Port Erin on a school trip at an early age, unlike your blogger
3 TENURE Enter uni after working for a time in office (6)
This seems to be (ENTER Uni)*
4 HIGH JINKS Boisterous behaviour from eminent judge with tattoos (4,5)
HIGH (eminent) + Judge + INKS (tattoos, as a verb)
5 ELGAR Glare irritated composer (5)
GLARE*
6 MARTELLO Harm old count locked in tower (8)
MAR + TELLO, the whole being a type of tower. A brief google suggests that a Count Tello may have existed at some point
7 EUROPEAN Anti-UKIP – clear about a way for Brussels to get back on top (8)
RUE< + (A in OPEN)
8 DEAD LOSS Lad does wrong section – he’s useless (4,4)
(LAD DOES)* + Section
14 SEA In use around North, say (3)
Reference to the North Sea, but the wordplay escapes me
16 AMPERSAND Parent upset by a smooth character (sharing with 7) (9)
MA< + PER (“a”) + SAND. I don’t fully understand why SAND is a “smooth character” shared with EUROPEAN. Or even partially
17 APOSTLES Evangelists have drinks outside station (8)
POST in ALES
18 BOWSPRIT Respectful acknowledgement to courage I needed to spar (8)
BOW + SP[i]RIT
19 NILE BLUE Earl’s nothing on, looking cold in shade (4,4)
NIL + Earl + BLUE. Apparently an actual colour (“shade”)
22 OIL Zip up top – had contracted not to show a valuable commodity (3)
Nope. 0 = “zip” maybe
25 MOMENT Doctor’s intended not one to be flash (6)
Medical Officer + ME[a]NT
26 INSANE Annoying Annie’s not a good idea (6)
ANNIES*
27 HONEYS Girls endearingly ‘hot’ – payments upfront not required (6)
Pass
28 TRIED Heard acting editor’s dropping round (5)
EDIT[o]R*, with “acting” as the last of many anagrinds which I would never have spotted

* = anagram; [] = removed; < = removed

16 comments on “Independent 8,363 by Tyrus (Saturday Prize Puzzle, 03/08/13)”

  1. Simon, you have my sympathy for getting the short straw with this one. I have just finished it online without aids but it was a struggle.

    The clue for CLUEDO refers to the fact that it is Dr Black who has been killed in the game.

    ALBAN is BANAL with the last two letters “cycled” to the front.

    SIMPSON is PM and IS reversed with SON=disciple.

    SEA is just a hidden word, but in all fairness it is well-disguised.

    MARTELLO is MAR (ham) + TELL (count) + O (old) with “locked in” as the containment indicator.

    AMPERSAND – “character” is the definition, although I’m not sure why “(sharing with 7)” is in the clue because it works without it.

    OIL – I also had zip=O, with (A)IL (if you contract flu you ail).

  2. HI Simon

    27dn: H(ot) + (m)ONEYS

    Andy B @1 re AMPERSAND: presumably a reference to the fact that & and 7 share a key on a standard computer keyboard.

    (It is, of course, much easier to fill in gaps when looking with a fresh eye than it is to solve a puzzle and write a full blog.)

  3. Thank you Simon. I’d never have finished this.

    OIL is 0(zip) + LI[d]< the 'd' removal is had contracted not to show

  4. I was not really on Tyrus’s wavelength for this puzzle. I failed to solve 9a & 28d, and I could not parse 2d, 16d, 1d, 13a, 22d.

    I did see the nina UNTHEMED in Row 1, but only at the end.

    New words for me were ANTHOID, UKIP, OONTS Maggie SIMPSON, TYPEBAR.

    I liked 32a, 15a, 17a, 29a, 23a and my favourite was 4d HIGH JINKS.

    Thanks for the blog, Simon. I parsed CLUEDO, ALBAN, SIMPSON, SEA, MARTELLO as Andy B @1, and HONEYS as Pelham Barton@2.

    Pelham Barton@2, thanks for the parsing of AMPERSAND.

    Sidey@3 – thanks for the parsing of OIL.

    I parsed 29a as def = key attachment. Insertion of BE reversed in *PARTY.

  5. This was the toughest Tyrus that I have tackled but I found it very enjoyable. I was on holiday so had time to chip away at it. SIMPSON and AMPERSAND were my favourite clues — the latter has a cleverly disguised definition: ‘smooth’ is a verb and ‘character (sharing with 7)’ is the definition, using the layout of a keyboard. I don’t know much about UN but I did spot the UN-THEMED, BAN KI MOON and ANNAN Ninas — I suspect there are others.

    Thanks Tyrus for the challenge and Simon for the blog.

  6. As far as the nina is concerned I can also see U THANT and WALDHEIM. I can’t find a UN connection for O’NEILL, apart from the UK Ambassador to Qatar who once served in the UK mission to the UN, but that seems a little obscure as the others were/are UN Secretary-Generals.

    As far as OIL is concerned, sidey@3’s parsing gets rid of the tense problem that mine has (contracted is past, ail is present), but “had contracted not to show” as an instruction to delete the last letter is very convoluted, and “had contracted” would have done exactly the same thing and not affected the surface.

    When I posted my earlier comment I hadn’t spotted that HONEYS hadn’t been parsed in the blog. I didn’t have a problem with it even though I am much more used to seeing the plural of money as monies. I have just checked OneLook and it has 10 entries for moneys and 16 for monies, so both seem to be in common use.

  7. sidey@3 and Andy B@8:

    ‘had contracted’ = D (as in “I’d”, “he’d” etc) so “top — had contracted not to show” = LI(D)

  8. Tramp@9 = thanks for that. I get it now, and I suspect that was probably what sidey@3 meant.

    nmsindy@10 – apart from the previously mentioned UNTHEMED across the top row I can’t make anything out of the other down clue initial letters. What am I missing?

  9. Tramp, nmsindy, Andy B above – thanks for that – I can see all of the themed references you mention now including GHALI & PEREZ.

    Tyrus – thanks a lot for this “UNTHEMED” puzzle.

  10. nmsindy@12 – d’oh! Thanks. You’d think that being a fan of cryptic crosswords I’d know what “clues” means …………………

  11. Some amazing clueing, saw UNTHEMED late in the day, but missed its cunning meaning and so all the other relevant parts of the Nina.

    I parsed 27D as [P]HONEYS – with hot meaning phoney (fictitious, fraudulent in my Dict and so “hot”) with P for payments up front not required. Didn’t think twice about this at the time, but I guess I’m wrong.

    Also, I must be the only one who initially entered, then had to delete as it didn’t fit with crossing words, ENG for 14D. Eng is an accepted abbreviation for engaged (in use, in the case of a loo for instance) and I parsed it as EG (say) around N (north).

    Obviously the deviousness of the clueing in this puzzle overstimulated my imagination.

    Thanks to Tyrus and Simon Harris.

  12. Thanks to Simon for the blog and to others for their comments and explanations. All eight of the Secretaries-General are there.

    Sorry if some solvers found this difficult. If it’s any consolation, it wasn’t that easy setting it either.

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