Quick Cryptic 34 by Chandler

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This is the thirty-fourth Guardian Quick Cryptic, a series of 11 x 11 crosswords designed to support beginners learning cryptic crosswords.  The whole point of these crosswords is support and encouragement of new solvers, so special rules for these crosswords apply – see here – those rules include not posting solving times.  There is a summary of the tricks used in the first six months here. This puzzle can be found here.

Following a number of comments we are continuing to tweak the blog.  The first suggestion was to to hide the answers and the last couple of weeks, following another request, we hid the wordplay descriptions too, to mixed reviews.   To find that hidden information, click on “Details” and it will pop up.  The definition is in bold and underlined, the indicator is in red.

This week we have a the return of Chandler, who has set a couple of Quick Cryptic crosswords and sets Quiptics regularly.   He has continued consolidating clue types learned earlier in the series using anagrams and hidden clues, which provide all the required letters, with soundalikes and charades.

A recent Guardian Crossword blog is called the ultimate beginner’s guide and has tips which may be useful for some solvers.

Fifteen Squared uses several abbreviations and jargon tricks, there’s a full list here, of which I’ve used the following in this blog:

  • underlining the definition in the clue – this is either at the beginning or end of the clue
  • indicators are in red.
  • CAPITALS to indicate which bits are part of the answer, e.g. PASS (qualify) to get PORT (drink)
  • anagram *(SENATOR) shows letters in clue being used, see clue below.
  • anagrind the anagram indicator (arranged)
  • charades – the description below only gives the example of words being added together, but charades can be more complicated, adding abbreviations or single letters to another word.  Examples previously used in this series are: Son ridicules loose overgarments (6) S (son) + MOCKS (ridicules), Get rid of dead pine (5) D (dead) + ITCH (pine) – D ITCH, and early on DR (doctor) + IVE (I have) to give DRIVE
  •  soundalike / homophone  is indicated by “Wilde” (Oscar, the playwright) for WILD, see below.
  • CAD or clue as definition– where the whole clue gives the definition, sometimes called an &lit.
  • DBE or defintion by example – e.g. where a dog might be clued as a setter – often using a question mark, maybe, possibly or e.g. to show that this is an example rather than a definition.
  • surface – the meaning from reading the clue – so often cryptic clues use an English that could only be found in a cryptic crossword, but a smooth surface is a clue that has a meaning in English, which can be pointed or misleading.

TODAY’S TRICKS – from the crossword site – which can be found at  www.theguardian.com/crosswords/quick-cryptic/34 – because the clues have moved on from the clue descriptions below, I am now adding more to the descriptions above.

Clues begin or end with a definition of the answer. The rest is one of these:

    1. Anagram An anagram of the answer and a hint that there’s an anagram
      ‘Senator arranged crime (7)’ gives TREASON
    2. Hidden word Answer is hidden in the clue’s words
      ‘Some have altered meat (4)’ gives VEAL
    3. Charade A combination of synonyms
      ‘Qualify to get drink for ID (8)’ gives PASSPORT (pass + port)
    4. Soundalike Something that sounds like the answer
      ‘Excited as Oscar’s announced (4)’ gives WILD

 

ACROSS
Click on “details” to see the solutions
1 Damp weather as rule, reportedly (4)
RAIN
soundalike of  (reportedly) “reign” (rule)
3
Fail in dining area ahead (4,2)
MESS UP
charade of  MESS (dining area) and UP (ahead) 
8
Two bridge players with two notes? Extremely impressive (7)
AWESOME
charade of A + W + E (two bridge players) + SO + ME (two notes).  Bridge players use the main points of the compass, N, S, W and E.   Notes here are from the SolFa scale – SO, sometimes soh, and ME, often mi.  I can’t account for the A. 
9
Exploit generous expert? Not altogether (3)
USE
hidden  (not altogether) in generoUS Expert
10
Mate leading a group of diners is easy to take (9)
PALATABLE
charade of  PAL (mate)  + (leading) + A (from the clue) + TABLE (group of diners)
12
Arab cried after shifting obstacle (9)
BARRICADE
anagram of (ARAB CRIED)* with anagrind of after shifting 
14
Go downhill in spotless kit (3)
SKI
hidden clue (in) spotlesS KI
15
See clip for broadcast showing astronomical event (7)
ECLIPSE
anagram of  (SEE CLIP)* with anagrind of for broadcast
17
Stop rude sister in part (6)
DESIST
hidden clue (in part) of ruDE SISTer 
18
Some fellow early for sport (4)
WEAR
hidden in  (some) of felloW EARly  – sport in the sense of wear – so he was sporting/wearing a natty waistcoat (I think of P G Wodehouse and Jeeves for that use)
DOWN
1
By the sound of it, went by bike in street (4)
ROAD
soundalike of “rode” (went by bike)
2
Anger found in pair, exceptionally (3)
IRE
hidden in  (found in)  paIR Exceptionally
4
Start to enjoy opening with posh friend in the end (10)
EVENTUALLY
charade of  E  (start to Enjoy) + VENT (opening) + U (posh) + ALLY (friend) – giving an example of a more complicated charade (and one that could be found in a full Cryptic crossword).  U for posh comes from the 1950s a social distinction between U and non-U (posh and not posh) language in English.  It still lives on in crosswordland
5
Son with fall gets to make a mistake (7)
STUMBLE
charade of S (son – from geneaology) + TUMBLE (fall) 
6
Favour quiet official with little hesitation (6)
PREFER
charade of  P (quiet – from musical notation – piano) + REF (official – referee) + ER (little hesitation)  – all the abbreviations here are regulars in cryptic crosswords.
7
Cornmeal is cooked for underground workers (10)
COALMINERS
anagram of (CORNMEAL IS)* with anagrind of cooked
10
A priest arranged socials (7)
PARTIES
anagram of  (A PRIEST)* with anagrind of arranged.
11
A bachelor with American journalist subjected to insults (6)
ABUSED
charade of A (from the clue) + B (bachelor – geneaology) + US (American) + ED (journalist – editor) – again all regular abbreviations in crosswordland
13
Look in seaside feature announced (4)
PEER
soundalike of (announced) of “pier” (seaside feature)  
16
Greek character mentioned baked dish (3)
PIE
soundalike of (mentioned) “pi” (Greek character – Π)

 

 

 

42 comments on “Quick Cryptic 34 by Chandler”

  1. nicbach
    @1 - November 23, 2024 at 2:35 am

    Hi Shanne, I just dropped in to see if anyone could account for the A in AWESOME. I think it’s a bit off-putting for beginners.
    Otherwise, I thought it very fair. Liked MESS UP.
    Thanks both.

  2. Geoff Down Under
    @2 - November 23, 2024 at 2:43 am

    I too came here for an explanation of the A in AWESOME. Curiouser and curiouser.

  3. Martyn
    @3 - November 23, 2024 at 3:33 am

    I too came here for an explanation of A in AWESOME.

    Worse, clues that use points, bridge players or notes are some of my least favourite and this one manages to combine two of these.

    I also wonder about 3ac. Can “ahead” and “up” be used interchangeably in a sentence? I am sure someone will be able to provide an example.

    I liked COALMINERS and BARRICADE

    Thanks Chandler and Shanne

  4. Shanne
    @4 - November 23, 2024 at 3:38 am

    Martyn @3 – Tyson Fury is ahead/up on points?

  5. Martyn
    @5 - November 23, 2024 at 4:22 am

    Shanne@4: I knew someone would have an answer. It was a nice example. Many thanks.

  6. Amanda
    @6 - November 23, 2024 at 6:23 am

    This seemed quite challenging at first pass but the hidden words and anagrams gave me enough to tackle the soundalikes and charades. I enjoyed piecing together the charades but needed help with the parsing of AWESOME and EVENTUALLY. From the above comments I can see why AWESOME defeated me. Great blog, thank you Shanne, and thanks for the puzzle Chandler.

  7. michelle
    @7 - November 23, 2024 at 7:18 am

    I could not parse the A in 8ac – I parsed the rest as did Shanne: WE (two bridge players) + SO + ME (two notes). Like Martyn, I am not keen on clues using references to bridge. It is hardly a popular game anymore. I’m in my mid-60s and do not know anyone my age or younger who plays it. Surely there are other ways to clue directions NSEW?

  8. Chandler
    @8 - November 23, 2024 at 7:50 am

    Apologies for the missing ‘a’ in 8 across – it was originally ‘a couple of’ but was later changed. Hope it didn’t detract too much from enjoyment of the puzzle – thanks to Shanne for the great work he does in providing these detailed blogs.

  9. paddymelon
    @9 - November 23, 2024 at 7:58 am

    Thanks Shanne.
    Like Martyn@3 I wasn’t happy about the bridge players and the solfa scale notes all in the one clue..
    I’m not a bridge player, but to give Chandler the benefit of the doubt regarding the A, and having a bit of a look online, could it be that two is a pair (WE)? A bit of a two-step process though, questionable in any cryptic, let alone a quick cryptic.

    Oh, thanks Chandler

  10. HG
    @10 - November 23, 2024 at 8:49 am

    For anyone looking for tips and tactics, my live solve is over at … https://youtu.be/zOm4xXayMmU … I got stuck on MESS, EVENTUALLY, STUMBLE and PALATABLE for the last few mins so it’s a good example of how to dig those out.

  11. Getting there
    @11 - November 23, 2024 at 9:10 am

    What an amazing detailed blog.
    I wish it was like that for the cryptics when I really want just a wee bit of help but not the whole answer immediately. What a lot of extra work has gone into this.

  12. Amma
    @12 - November 23, 2024 at 9:10 am

    I struggled with 8a and 4d which seemed much harder than clues in previous Quick Cryptics; I didn’t know where to go with the bridge players. The only person I know who plays bridge is 80. Otherwise very enjoyable.

  13. Peter
    @13 - November 23, 2024 at 9:33 am

    Couldn’t figure out which version of the word was required for 1D and as there is no clear direction of where the A comes from in 8A, I was somewhat stuck. 4D is too hard for this style of crossword, in fact I won’t be the only non-finisher this week.

  14. Marc
    @14 - November 23, 2024 at 9:54 am

    A few multi-stage charades definitely upped the difficulty for me on this one but I got there. Struggled to parse 4d, but with so many crossers I was able to work it out. I’m not opposed to a few trickier clues in these, so long as they’re not dependent on other tricky ones for crossers.

  15. Marc
    @15 - November 23, 2024 at 9:55 am

    @13 Peter – it had to be ROAD as the RODE definition isn’t at the start or end of the clue.

  16. HumbleTim
    @16 - November 23, 2024 at 9:58 am

    Many thanks Chandler@8 for explaining the 8a mystery! I guess it’s too late to issue a correction – I was just thinking of those who might be working through these excellent puzzles in the future. And many thanks to Shanne for another comprehensive blog.

  17. thecronester
    @17 - November 23, 2024 at 9:59 am

    Was thrown by U = ‘posh’ in 4d although had parsed the rest so it had to be. Never heard of that archaic usage. Like others the A in 8a had me stumped but had to be given the rest of the clue fell out from the wordplay. For some reason I had trouble getting onto the right wavelength for this QC but got there in the end.
    Thanks Chandler for the puzzle (and 8a clarification) and thanks Shanne for the detailed blog as usual.

  18. Gawny
    @18 - November 23, 2024 at 10:04 am

    3a. To confuse matters further I think my partner’s cycling friends call out ‘car up’ meaning car behind and ‘car down’ meaning car ahead. I find this difficult to remember and was told to recite up your b** and down your throat. Is this terminology general, or is it a very local usage?

  19. Deebster
    @19 - November 23, 2024 at 10:05 am

    It never occurred to me that bachelor was from genealogy – I assumed it’s in the sense of BA/BSc.

    Getting there@11 Same here – I’ve definitely loaded up the answers for a puzzle I’ve yet to finish and squinted at the page to try to confirm that I’ve got the definition part right without seeing any other spoilers.

    Thanks for the puzzle/explanation Chandler@8 and thanks for the write-up Shanne.

  20. Monkey
    @20 - November 23, 2024 at 10:12 am

    Chandler @8, you could possibly have got away with claiming that the missing A was a deliberate learning exercise, in keeping with the aims of Quick Cryptics! We do see mistakes in clues occasionally in other crossword categories, along with solvers’ quibbles and objections.

    I enjoyed this, and found it fairly challenging, like HG @10 and in the same places. HG, I quite often watch your videos and find it interesting to see where we each get misdirected or struggle to see something. As I only watch after solving a puzzle, I’m often willing you to see what I have already seen! I recommend HG’s videos for solving tips, for their honesty, and for seeing that you are not alone in sometimes being baffled. (I am also impressed sometimes at the speed of seeing an answer or how a clue works.)

  21. Zurichwelsh
    @21 - November 23, 2024 at 11:14 am

    Loved 4d, I’d worked it out from the crossers and the surface and it was then fun to parse. I’d heard of U / non U before and seen it here every so often.

    For some reason I really struggled with 6d!

    (We use car up as ahead and car back as behind @gawny / 18 – lots of variations!)

  22. Zurichwelsh
    @22 - November 23, 2024 at 11:20 am

    I totally had a different parse for 8a.

    For me in my weird parse, I couldn’t find the OM… (was looking somewhere for a yoga reference)

    I had A and E as notes, and W and S as bridge positions, and E from the end (extremely) of impressive (knowing that sometimes the whole thing includes the clue…)

    Solfa just didn’t come into my head.

  23. Pauline in Brum
    @23 - November 23, 2024 at 12:01 pm

    Chandler@8, thank you for the puzzle and the much needed clarification. I thought this was pretty tough for a QC. HG@10, I watched your solve to see what you said about AWESOME and like Monkey@20 was willing you on, especially with MESS UP and STUMBLE. Shanne, thank you very much for the painstaking blog.

  24. Jaytee53
    @24 - November 23, 2024 at 12:34 pm

    Have been doing QCs since they started and can’t remember one that was chewier to complete. A clue like 4D would be pushing it even for a quiptic. Thanks Shanne for the blog.

  25. Holly Anderson
    @25 - November 23, 2024 at 1:12 pm

    Finished it but then needed help to parse 8a ( wouldn’t have been able to do that as no bridge knowledge) and see why it was u in 4d ( which I knew but hadn’t thought of). Once again a heartfelt thanks to the setter ( Chandler ) and Shanne for the detailed blog. I am loving these quick cryptics – fingers crossed for quiptic tomorrow which are more of a challenge for me.

  26. TanTrumPet
    @26 - November 23, 2024 at 1:30 pm

    Like others I came here looking for an explanation of the wayward A – I’d been thinking to myself that “a couple of” instead of “two” would fix it, so thanks to Chandler for dropping in and clearing that up.

    I did find this on the harder end of the QC spectrum, but still in the right territory, I think.

    I’ve never played bridge in my life, but I still know that NSEW are used to label players, so I’m fine with that. On the other hand, I dislike the “doh rae me” notes clues as there doesn’t seem to be general agreement on their spelling (as Shanne alludes to in the blog).

    Thanks again to Chandler and Shanne.

  27. Charlie Tomson
    @27 - November 23, 2024 at 6:25 pm

    To answer @Gawny, my cycling club uses ‘car front’ to mean that there’s a car in front of us, and ‘car back’ to mean that there’s one coming from behind us; I know that many cyclists use ‘car up’ to mean ‘car front’ and ‘car down’ to mean ‘car behind’, but the terms are more open to mis-interpretation while out on the road, which is why we use ‘front’ and ‘back’. If some clubs, like your friends’, do indeed use ‘up’ to mean ‘behind’, then all the more reason to avoid those terms, as people do switch clubs from time to time!

  28. Dylan N
    @28 - November 23, 2024 at 7:24 pm

    8a was the only one I couldn’t parse at all and at least I know why now (I know sol-fa intimately but it’s always been spelled “mi” where I’ve seen it). The “extremely” was a distraction too, didn’t seem to add anything to the clue (I assumed it was a Wordplay indicator for first and last letters of something).

    Also ot a fan of “broadcast” as an anagrind particularly in a homophone-themed crossword. But still enjoyably solvable!

  29. Dylan N
    @29 - November 23, 2024 at 7:34 pm

    (just saw the comments re “car up” – I have never ever heard any cyclist use to mean “car behind” and struggle to imagine anyone would do ever so. It’s always “up” for “ahead” – – as in coming up, usually on a narrow road where some riders are likely to be using the opposite lane. Car “down” I’ve never heard either, if someone called that I’d wonder if there’d been an accident/breakdown!)

  30. HG
    @30 - November 23, 2024 at 8:07 pm

    @20 Monkey and @23 Pauline – thanks for your feedback and support. When I was learning, I found it encouraging to go to the blogs and see the clues I’d struggled with were the same ones which decent solvers had struggled with. It’s very easy to imagine decent solvers never have dry spells or get blocked when you read their posts so hopefully the livesolves (especially today’s) highlight it’s not always plain sailing.

  31. CrypticCruciverbalism
    @31 - November 23, 2024 at 11:05 pm

    Live Solve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHj5SHHgTMY

    Little tougher this week, quite a few homophones, charades and the occasional anagram. Thanks Chandler, Thanks Shanne of Fifteen Squared. The “A” in 8 across seemed to stump quite a few people, so please do comment if you have any ideas.

    Link to crossword: https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/quick-cryptic/

  32. Shanne
    @32 - November 23, 2024 at 11:18 pm

    CrypticCruciverbalism @31 – Chandler @8 explains the missing “A” in 8A.

  33. FinalPunch
    @33 - November 24, 2024 at 4:59 am

    This was enjoyable – agree that 4d was very tough for a Quick Cryptic (honestly, wouldn’t be on the easy end of a Cryptic), though I do think that we should have some clues like that to help transition to tougher puzzles.

    Figured out ‘for broadcast’ had to be an anagram indicator but it didn’t seem obviously so (first instinct was homophone indicator).

    My family are all bridge players, though not me, but it does make the terminology on 8a easier! It was the notes that got me slowed down – my original parsing was the same as Zurichwelsh@22.

  34. NewCrossX
    @34 - November 24, 2024 at 7:16 am

    Still enjoying these puzzles. Agree with FinalPunch@33 that exposure to tougher clues is helpful for accessing the other puzzles. Didn’t get 4d but appreciate the construction and definitely seeing progress. Finishing these puzzles more often than not now and usually getting at least a few clues on the Sunday puzzles. Big love as ever to Shanne.

  35. Chris Clifton
    @35 - November 24, 2024 at 8:24 am

    Gawny @18. I’ve been a keen cyclist for nearly 60 years, and the warning for car ahead or behind has always been the same. As has (perhaps with slightly more graphic language) the explanation for which is which.

  36. Jane
    @36 - November 24, 2024 at 11:21 am

    Thank you for this, Shanne. I like the way I can look for a clue without seeing the answer.

  37. sakenotabibito
    @37 - November 24, 2024 at 5:43 pm

    Thanks Shanne and Chandler. Thoroughly enjoyed this puzzle. I completely kicked myself when I realized the other meaning of sport after reading the explanation. I guess sport is not used in that way so often these days. Slowly getting the hang of the bridge player clues. Maybe I will try the game one day.

  38. BeefySP
    @38 - November 26, 2024 at 10:42 pm

    This was only my third Guardian quick cryptic, after years of starting and giving up trying to learn multiple times. I’ve watched a few YouTube videos recently and thought I’d take the plunge and I’ve had an enjoyable three weeks solving these puzzles which have been pitched nicely and was very proud to finish a couple of them!

    This blog has been invaluable in the explanations and the way they have been set out so thank you so much. This was actually the toughest one yet and I had to do a couple of reveals. At first I was a little downhearted but the blog and the comments have cheered me up as every clue I struggled with someone here mentioned and I completely agree that they are a great gateway to the clues in harder puzzles.

  39. Taffy
    @39 - November 27, 2024 at 8:16 pm

    Yet another fun exercise for newcomers to get to grips with cryptics, including the accidental mistake with the missing A. It happens once in a while in the cryptics too, especially when setters decide to rework a clue to include a better device, only to accidentally drop the ball, or in this case a letter, exactly as Chandler explains at 8. Shrug, move on, check 225. Most times it’s your parsing that’s deficient, but you got the right answer, so carry on. Many folks often just bung in a synonym for the definition having got enough crossers and care little for the construct and consequently don’t see when there’s a problem.

    Meanwhile, I have a treat for you all. Wednesday’s Cryptic, set by Arachne, a setter who’s been absent for a while but praised (and missed) in the regular blogs. It’s a work of art. The definitions are pretty clear, the wordplay majestic. Take your time. You probably won’t get them all and the SW corner is a little tricky, but you’ll enjoy those you can unravel, I assure you.

    Meanwhile, thanks very much Chandler, a very good example of this fine series. Also to Shanne, the hidden answers and workings are a triumph.

  40. Shanne
    @40 - November 27, 2024 at 8:33 pm

    Taffy @39 – I did see your comment on the the Arachne blog, and thought I need to add that suggestion to this Saturday’s blog, rather than post here, as some people come along later, but not many.

  41. Taffy
    @41 - November 28, 2024 at 12:49 am

    Shanne@40 you are exactly right in your thinking there, I just couldn’t wait to spread the joy and would have repeated it again on the next QC. Delighted that you concur and will leave it to you to spread the good news. Thanks for your wonderful efforts here.

  42. Ral
    @42 - November 30, 2024 at 3:03 pm

    This one felt challenging but satisfying.
    Thanks to Chandler and Shanne for clearing up my confusion around the A and U, and again to Chandler for the puzzle itself. 🙂

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